Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:07:53 +0200 From: Marc van Kempen <marc@bowtie.nl> To: "Georg-W. Koltermann" <Georg.Koltermann@mscsoftware.com> Cc: Bill Huey <billh@gnuppy.monkey.org>, Marc Recht <marc@informatik.uni-bremen.de>, freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 1.3.1 patchset 7 not quite ready Message-ID: <3D2EB889.7060508@bowtie.nl> References: <20020710234814.GE2394@gnuppy.monkey.org> <15660.64672.311655.234760@emerger.yogotech.com> <1026385676.781.30.camel@leeloo.intern.geht.de> <20020711111817.GA8289@gnuppy.monkey.org> <1026389333.781.49.camel@leeloo.intern.geht.de> <20020711145417.GA2578@gnuppy.monkey.org> <3D2DA032.2090403@bowtie.nl> <1026468155.21093.10.camel@hunter.muc.macsch.com>
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Georg-W. Koltermann wrote: > Am Do, 2002-07-11 um 17.11 schrieb Marc van Kempen: > >>Bill Huey wrote: >> >>>On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 02:08:52PM +0200, Marc Recht wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Cool! Can we've a patch ? Pretty please. :-) >>> >>> >>>Another thing that I need to ask is what's the relevance >>>of me working on HotSpot if you, say, could possibly run >>>it under Linux emulation ? Would it still be critical if >>>that was the case ? >>> >> >>I'm not sure if that would really help. Right now support for hotspot under the >>Linux emulation is broken because of the complicated stuff that sun uses to >>make their hotspot compiler running. This has been so ever since 1.3 came out, >>which is about two years ago now. So if you (or someone else) would make it >>work for now, it would propably still be an ongoing effort with every new >>release of the jdk for linux. Or at least that's what I'm afraid of. > > > Oh sure, having the native HotSpot is much prefereable to having Linux > HotSpot -- *BUT* keep in mind that Linux HotSpot is maintained by SUN, > and therefore is available WAY EARLIER with every JDK release. > > I think that now that green threads are gone from JDK 1.4+, it is even > more important that we are able to run the Linux HotSpot. Otherwise we > would always have this one-year (or so) gap between the Linux release > date of a new JDK and the FreeBSD availability date. > > I'm not saying that the FreeBSD porting is too slow when it takes one > year, this time lag is the sum of several factors. However fast we are > in porting, we will have to wait for SUNs source release of a new JDK, > and that's usually quite a bit after the first binary releases, or isn't > it? > I believe they were a bit faster with the jdk 1.4.0 sources, but I think there is still no access to the jdk 1.3.1_02+ sources, or is there? So sure, you're right, and I would be very happy to be able to use the Linux hotspot stuff right now. But shouldn't we be able to get 1.4.x (and hopefully 1.5.x and further) ported much faster, once the really hard stuff (hotspot, initial 1.3.x port) is done? Or do you expect significant internal development to the jvm? Regards, Marc. -- ---------------------------------------------------- Marc van Kempen tel. +31 40 2 64 98 60 BowTie Technology fax. +31 40 2 64 98 61 Raiffeisenstraat 7 mailto:marc@bowtie.nl 5611 CH Eindhoven http://www.bowtie.nl ---------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message
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