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Date:      Thu, 7 Jan 1999 22:13:59 -0500 (EST)
From:      spork <spork@super-g.com>
To:        Graeme.Cross@sci.monash.edu.au
Cc:        "Jason C. Wells" <jcwells@u.washington.edu>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: New Majordomo Feature
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.00.9901072213070.23219-100000@super-g.inch.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.04.9901081300350.1551-100000@babylon.wsc.monash.ed u.au>

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How about a 'post-only' subscription with required confirmation?  Another
list I post to is set up that way, and it seems to eliminate 99.9% of
spam.

Charles

---
Charles Sprickman
spork@super-g.com
--- 
                     "...there's no idea that's so good you can't 
                      ruin it with a few well-placed idiots." 

On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, Graeme Cross wrote:

> On Thu, 7 Jan 1999, Jason C. Wells wrote:
> 
> >On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, Graeme Cross wrote:
> >
> >>Jason, there is too much potential here for abuse.
> >
> >Perhaps. I say that we already trust ourselves to not abuse the lists.
> >
> >Also, the description of the possible solution was incredibly simple. As a
> >check against abuse there could be a tally of spamthread commands. Two
> >strikes and your out.
> >
> >>mailing list spam becomes negligible.
> >
> >Nearly all of my spam comes from these lists. Granted, spam is a low 
> >percentage of my total traffic. I thought maybe my idea could help the
> >people on the lists help themselves as well as the postmaster.
> 
> The problem is that the lists are open - AFAIK you can post to the FreeBSD
> lists without being subscribed to them.
> 
> While I understand the reasons behind this, the policy assists spammers.
> 
> It would also allow abuse of a spamthread feature: once the feature became
> known, a simple posting by some 3l33t d00d on alt.2600 and you would have
> every idiot on the web sending spamthreads to the lists.
> 
> Your fundamental idea is great, but it would need to be carefully 
> implemented:
> 
> 1. Only a subscribed person could send the command
> 
> 2. You could have a blacklist of people forbidden from sending the 
>    spamthread command (as you say, two strikes and you're out)
> 
> 3. Certain key subjects could never be spamthreaded (eg. freebsd!)
> 
> Cheers
> Graeme
> 
> --
> Graeme Cross 
> Water Studies Centre, Monash University           Phone: +61 3 990 54089
> Clayton, Victoria, Australia
> 
> 
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