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Date:      Thu, 26 May 2005 15:41:00 +0200
From:      "Ronald Klop" <ronald-freebsd8@klop.yi.org>
To:        Vizion <vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com>, freebsd-java@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Java - intend to start a debate...
Message-ID:  <op.srdxmmmf8527sy@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <200505260552.19627.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com>
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On Thu, 26 May 2005 14:52:18 +0200, Vizion <vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com>  
wrote:

> On Thursday 26 May 2005 00:22,  the author Ronald Klop contributed to the
> dialogue on Re: Java - intend to start a debate...:
> & On Thu, 26 May 2005 02:46:29 +0200, Vizion  
> <vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com>
> & wrote:
> &
> & > Hi
> & > Ok opinions please -- what do you consider the best development
> & > environment
> & > for java given:
> & > 1. need to have both server side and client side running java  
> programs
> & > 2. Using apache, Tomcat and/or Jboss
> & > 3. Keeping data, presentation and processing in separate watertight
> & > comparments
> & > 4. Using sql (probably mysql)
> & > 5. Heavy use of XML input/output based on schemas - output using CSS.
> & > 6. FreeBSD 5.3 platform for staging server (probably moved to 5.4  
> before
> & > production time (early 2006)
> & > 7. Experimenting with Java 5 as well as 1.4
> & > Arguments encouraged
> & > David
> &
> & Isn't what you describe a development environment?
> & The only thing you miss is an editor and a MVC framework like struts or
> & tapestry.
> & And Apache isn't very good in running java. :-)
> & And early 2006 you can better upgrade to 5.5 or 6.1 I think.
> &
> On yr last point I hope so..
>
> Well I would say that the output from the development environment  
> delivers
> programs & procedures designed to control those tools!!
>
> What are your opinions of struts & tapestry?

Great software. I like the concept of tapestry more than struts, but I  
didn't use them in detail. At my work we made our own framework, because  
in the time we started our product the existing ones were very small  
still. But our framework is property of the company.

Ronald.

-- 
  Ronald Klop
  Amsterdam, The Netherlands



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