Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 22:47:16 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl> To: Andrzej Bialecki <abial@nask.pl> Cc: FreeBSD Small <freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Command-line i/f (Re: PicoBSD) Message-ID: <7718969811B4.AAA1F54@smtp02.wxs.nl> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.02A.9810011214420.7453-100000@korin.warman.org. pl> References: <Version.32.19980930225217.00e55270@pop.wxs.nl>
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At 12:26 01-10-98 , Andrzej Bialecki wrote:
>On Wed, 30 Sep 1998, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote:
>
>> I read that ye had the desire/wish to make the router version of picoBSD
>> akin in use to Cisco's IOS/Shiva's SpiderSoftware?
>> As far as I am concerned, I like that idea and would gladly contribute my
>> opinions and wishes for such an interface, might be a program/shell that
>> will be loaded at boottime to give the user such an interface...
>Perhaps this is a dead end, perhaps not.. but now I'm experimenting with
>Forth (in fact, its variant: /usr/ports/lang/atlast) - I need this in some
>other project as well, and I thought it would be a nice approach.
Forth, forth, isn't that YAPL (Yet Another Programming Language)? *Looking
at the ports directory name verifies it* =)
>It's very small, fast, robust, it has very well defined memory constraints
>and consumption, and what's important it allows for embedding in your
>program. Now, there is a huge number of other script languages (python,
>tcl, Bourne shell, to name a few), some of them are embeddable, but all of
>them are much bigger and much more hungry for resources...
Uh huh, and for what purpose? The User Interface like I said, and as you
yerself suggested on the WWW pages?
>At the moment it's just an idea, I haven't written any code yet, just
>playing with it. I'm sure those of you, white-bearded hackers, who have
>more experience in this area, will have some opinions on this... :-)
Well, the designing of the UI can be done without even coding it yet =)
Also the command categorizing can also be done in advance... Besides, the
UI/shell has to pass these commands to the config files, but will these
still be the same as FreeBSD's or will they use the FreeBSD kernel and
device drivers and then built the config/router software on top of that?
>> Also I am testing the bootdisks too and unfortunately they were they older
>> versions with the DEVFS stuff in it and paniced on two dell systems, but
>> ran fine on my system here... But that's not really helpful =)
>
>I hope you've got the new (0.41) version? The version with DEVFS (0.4) can
>survive if you don't use filesystem too much (if you edit a small file,
>you're fine, but do an 'ls -lR /' and it will die on you).
Not yet, have to download it again... Just letting ye know about 0.40 =)
regards,
Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / Asmodai <asmodai(at)wxs.nl>
ICQ-UIN: 1564317 .:. Ninth Circle Enterprises
Network/Security Specialist
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