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Date:      Wed, 11 Jun 1997 06:22:03 -0400 (EDT)
From:      "Stephen A. Derdau" <sderdau@xtdl.com>
To:        Blaine Minazzi <bminazzi@denverweb.net>
Cc:        isp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Internet providers discouraging customers from unix
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.91.970611061815.23219C-100000@user.xtdl.com>
In-Reply-To: <339E2562.2C453FBA@denverweb.net>

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If you really want to learn how a system operates .......Get into
Unix, FreeBSD  , linux,,,,,whatever.  You get good at these or other
similar O/S's you should be able to hack your way around these other
operating sys/shells .  

Stephen A. Derdau
XTDL inc
603 4714700		"It's just a matter of perspective"
	

On Tue, 10 Jun 1997, Blaine Minazzi wrote:

> Jacob Suter wrote:
> > 
> > My point (as the support personel of intrastar.net)...  morons shouldn't
> > use unix...  If I have a user that calls and does something to the tune of
> > "I GOT MY (unix type) CD TODAY - PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO EXPLOIT SOMETHING
> > COOL!" I'm not going to be super-keen on telling this person what to
> > do.Unix IMHO is for elite people, not for lowly lamer people (ie - the guy
> > that barely knew enough to go to WAlmart and spend a lot of money on a
> > packard bell)..
> > 
> > JS
> 
> Most "lowly lamer people" as you put it have _no_ interest in Unix.
> They just want the latest whiz bang machine, loaded with the latest
> version of whatever microsquish decides to pass off as an operating
> system.   
> 
> Fortunatley, most of the people who are responsible for the exsistance
> of freeBSD and Linux,  actually want to help people learn more, rather
> than treat everyone who knows less than they do as morons.
> 
> We all get the "ASSHOLES DO VEX ME!" attitude from time to time.
> That is when we know that we are in need af a vacation.
> 
> I find that most of the users I have that use some variation of unix,
> are far more able to solve their own problems than other users.
> I might have to spend a little more time at first, but they are usually
> not anywhere near as hard to deal with as the people who cannot even
> change directories, IF they even know what a directory is.
> 
> They may be begginers with Unix, but, I am quite sure that you were a
> beginner once also.  I will even lay odds than you made some of the
> exact same stupid mistakes as the rest of us.  I will also bet that
> there were times that you recieved help from someone more astute than
> yourself...    Why not pass it on?
> 
> Bkm
> 



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