Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 07:37:20 +0100 From: "Stephen A. Derdau" <sderdau@xtdl.com> To: Blaine Minazzi <bminazzi@denverweb.net>, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Internet providers discouraging customers from unix Message-ID: <339E47A0.C055D3FC@xtdl.com> References: <Pine.BSF.3.91.970611061815.23219C-100000@user.xtdl.com>
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Before I try to learn anything else I better check with Mr.Stutter......Thank goodness I had exposure to other people on the net when I asked stupid questions "so he sayith". Which the response was a real Treat. . BKM your right...... I also am one of the owners of an ISP. I also find it true that some users are lucky to know what a directory is. I am not the administrator in all regards. However, in the last two years I have learned alot. Next time I have a question I hope that you or one of the one of the others will point me in the right direction. Who knows I may get good at this one day. Of course probably not as good as Mr. Stutter. But hey sometimes great things come out of surprising places. Just look at history. If some people listened to those others who said they couldn't do it. Where would be today. Not every one can be an Einstein like mr Stutter. :) Stephen A. Derdau wrote: > If you really want to learn how a system operates .......Get into > Unix, FreeBSD , linux,,,,,whatever. You get good at these or other > similar O/S's you should be able to hack your way around these other > operating sys/shells . > > Stephen A. Derdau > XTDL inc > 603 4714700 "It's just a matter of perspective" > > On Tue, 10 Jun 1997, Blaine Minazzi wrote: > > > Jacob Suter wrote: > > > > > > My point (as the support personel of intrastar.net)... morons > shouldn't > > > use unix... If I have a user that calls and does something to the > tune of > > > "I GOT MY (unix type) CD TODAY - PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO EXPLOIT > SOMETHING > > > COOL!" I'm not going to be super-keen on telling this person what > to > > > do.Unix IMHO is for elite people, not for lowly lamer people (ie - > the guy > > > that barely knew enough to go to WAlmart and spend a lot of money > on a > > > packard bell).. > > > > > > JS > > > > Most "lowly lamer people" as you put it have _no_ interest in Unix. > > They just want the latest whiz bang machine, loaded with the latest > > version of whatever microsquish decides to pass off as an operating > > system. > > > > Fortunatley, most of the people who are responsible for the > exsistance > > of freeBSD and Linux, actually want to help people learn more, > rather > > than treat everyone who knows less than they do as morons. > > > > We all get the "ASSHOLES DO VEX ME!" attitude from time to time. > > That is when we know that we are in need af a vacation. > > > > I find that most of the users I have that use some variation of > unix, > > are far more able to solve their own problems than other users. > > I might have to spend a little more time at first, but they are > usually > > not anywhere near as hard to deal with as the people who cannot even > > > change directories, IF they even know what a directory is. > > > > They may be begginers with Unix, but, I am quite sure that you were > a > > beginner once also. I will even lay odds than you made some of the > > exact same stupid mistakes as the rest of us. I will also bet that > > there were times that you recieved help from someone more astute > than > > yourself... Why not pass it on? > > > > Bkm > >
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