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Date:      Sat, 6 Oct 2007 22:54:04 +0200
From:      Wilko Bulte <wb@freebie.xs4all.nl>
To:        Jack Vogel <jfvogel@gmail.com>
Cc:        Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org>, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, Jack F Vogel <jfv@FreeBSD.org>, Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= <des@des.no>
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/conf files kern.pre.mk src/sys/dev/em LICENSE e1000_80003es2lan.c e1000_80003es2lan.h e1000_82540.c e1000_82541.c e1000_82541.h e1000_82542.c e1000_82543.c e1000_82543.h e1000_82571.c e1000_82571.h e1000_82575.c ...
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Quoting Jack Vogel, who wrote on Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 12:59:24PM -0700 ..
> On 10/6/07, Dag-Erling Smørgrav <des@des.no> wrote:
> > Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org> writes:
> > > Dag-Erling Smørgrav <des@des.no> writes:
> > > > We used to have a principle that commit bits were granted to individuals
> > > > on their individual merit, not simply because they represented a vendor
> > > > and were paid to work on drivers for that vendor's hardware.
> > > Are you implying that Jack has no merit?  That's an unfortunate
> > > assertion.  What evidence do you have to support that?
> >
> > It is you who implied rather strongly that Jack is neither more nor less
> > than an Intel representative.  You spoke of "lecturing a vendor" when
> > all Erik did was point out or own rules to a *committer*.
> >
> > > > We also used to have a principle that changes should be tested
> > > > before being committed, especially to -STABLE.
> > > I guess you missed that part where Jack said that the changes had
> > > undergone extensive testing.
> >
> > I guess you missed the part where his commit broke the tinderbox,
> > because he clearly did not test the DEVICE_POLLING case.
> >
> 
> No one is perfect, and YUP, we don't test POLLING, so here I am
> on my weekend fixing it, I don't get paid for that, and I also don't
> get paid for all the advocation I do for this community to Intel
> management.

Thankless job, all this.  But I hope you know that your work is well
appreciated by the crowd 'out there'.

cheers,
Wilko

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Wilko Bulte				wilko@FreeBSD.org



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