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Date:      Wed, 13 Aug 2014 07:45:15 +0000
From:      Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Adam Weinberger <adamw@adamw.org>
Cc:        svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, marino@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, Cy Schubert <cy@FreeBSD.org>, Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r364739 - in head: . sysutils sysutils/syslog-ng-devel sysutils/syslog-ng-devel/files
Message-ID:  <20140813074515.GB16368@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <88E432AA-8DC7-4C8A-B530-C75AF32952AF@adamw.org>
References:  <53ea6d76.6eb9.5599e7c9@svn.freebsd.org> <53EA6EBB.2010802@marino.st> <53EA7155.4060606@FreeBSD.org> <53EA7416.5080008@marino.st> <88E432AA-8DC7-4C8A-B530-C75AF32952AF@adamw.org>

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On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 05:22:46PM -0400, Adam Weinberger wrote:
> On 12 Aug, 2014, at 16:07, John Marino <freebsd.contact@marino.st> wrote:
> > To me, they are more trouble than they are worth especially when the
> > ports are reset.  I think there should be a pretty high bar for devel
> > ports, and maintainer need to justify why they want to convert the
> > FreeBSD community into a testers for third party software (which is the
> > reason I've heard).
> 
> I disagree. Many people are happy running bleeding-edge stuff. Many people
> PREFER running bleeding-edge stuff. I bet that we have users who prefer
> FreeBSD over *BSD because they can always get the latest and greatest.

I would say that it makes even more sense to compare with GNU/Linux distros,
but the thing is that it has nothing to do with -devel ports.  Surely we all
love FreeBSD to have Python 2.7.8 and Google's protobuf 2.5.0 (while with
some LTS Ubuntu I'm bound to Python 2.6.5 and protobuf 2.2.0).  But this is
all because Ports are always[*] -CURRENT, not because of -devel ports.

./danfe

[*] Well, there are quarterly branches if one wants it to feel like Debian
    stable without the quality control; IMHO they are of no use and should
    be ignored altogether.



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