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Date:      Sat, 23 Nov 2002 03:38:23 -0800
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
To:        Anthony Atkielski <anthony@freebie.atkielski.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD Advocacy <freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD on the desktop (was: TheRegister article on Hotmail)
Message-ID:  <3DDF68AF.E5F94C90@mindspring.com>
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Anthony Atkielski wrote:
> Terry writes:
> > Except UNIX in general, and FreeBSD in particular,
> > it seems.
> 
> No, not even those.  An unwillingness to mindlessly endorse FreeBSD or UNIX
> for every conceivable use under the sun is not synonymous with bashing; in
> fact, it isn't even close.

Earlier you stated, in a post to the list, in response to a
post by Greg Lehey (though you made this difficult to discern,
by altering mail headers unnecesarily):

	Part of rational advocacy is recognizing the strengths
	AND the weaknesses of one's favored OS.

What you neglected to state was:

	And then playing up the strengths, while playing down
	and/or providing workarounds for the weaknesses.

You seem intolerant of the idea of "an advocate", as in "someone
who advocates", as opposed to "somone who only advocates under
specific conditions which Anthony decides upon".

I don't understan the idea of a "conditional advocate"; it seems
to me that this would be similar to someone who cheers for their
favorite baseball team, except when they are playing teams from
the West Coast, becuse they are supposed to realize that they
should "bend over and take it like a man" when their team plays
a West Coast team.

Advocacy doesn't work like that: it's "all or nothing".  A Cubs
fan is a Cubs fan, and comes out and yels for their team, even if
they *know* that their team is going to get creamed.

I think what you are describing isn't "advocacy", it's "consulting".

Maybe you would have better luck selling this idea, if you were
posting on the "freebsd-consulting" mailing list?

-- Terry

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