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Date:      Tue, 11 Nov 1997 19:25:24 -0700 (MST)
From:      Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com>
To:        Eivind Eklund <perhaps@yes.no>
Cc:        Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com>, tlambert@primenet.com, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Newest Pentium bug (fatal)
Message-ID:  <199711120225.TAA01027@rocky.mt.sri.com>
In-Reply-To: <19971112021408.64619@bitbox.follo.net>
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> [Nate Williams]
> > I see no predictability in humans behavior, and the arguements against
> > the existance of God/god is defined by his behavior towards man, or in
> > particular one person's ability to 'predict the future' in a controlled
> > setting.
> 
> NO predictability?  I see a definite statistic predictability; e.g, I
> can predict the likelihood that you're going to answer more messages
> based on the number of messages you've answered before.

Not necessarily so, since I may give up in frustration and all of you to
my mail forwarder so I'm not bothered by it.  Seriously, humans
are fickle beings.

> It isn't an exact prediction, but I can predict that SOMEBODY is going
> to answer post a message to the freebsd-hackers list in the next week
> with (so far) 100% reliability.  That's human behavior, too :-)

Actually, depending on the question, it may go totally unanswered if the
person/people capable of answering doesn't care, is too busy, or are
annoyed.  You can't depend on human behavior.

> I can predict that you're either going to eat food within the next six
> months unless you die.  That's a prediction on your personal behavior.

Now you're being silly.  I don't consider 'eating' a behavior, since
it's a requirment.  Bet you can't predict what I'm going to eat in the
next 6 months based on my previous diet.
> I don't believe in telepathy as-of-yet.  I just find it an easier pill
> to swallow than something that must by definition _also_ include an
> unknown mode of communication, which is what telepathy would be.  Call
> it the 'smaller hypothesis'.

Why is it smaller?

> And I can't see how telepathy would need to be completely
> un-quantifiable?  I can see scores of ways to quantify it, and
> probably measure it if it do exist.  The fact that it hasn't been
> shown in a repeatable experiment yet seems to show that it (if it
> indeed exists) is fairly elusive, though.

In the same manner as the existance of God, yes. :)


Nate



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