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Date:      Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:20:59 +1000
From:      Stephen McKay <syssgm@dtir.qld.gov.au>
To:        John-Mark Gurney <gurney_j@resnet.uoregon.edu>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, syssgm@dtir.qld.gov.au
Subject:   Re: 3.0-R on a amd386dx/40 
Message-ID:  <199810211020.UAA09162@nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au>
In-Reply-To: <19981021030658.41265@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> from John-Mark Gurney at "Wed, 21 Oct 1998 03:06:58 -0700"
References:  <19981021004537.00515@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <199810210847.SAA06623@nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au> <19981021022458.12727@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <199810210933.TAA07949@nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au> <19981021023848.61590@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <199810210955.TAA08445@nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au> <19981021030658.41265@hydrogen.nike.efn.org>

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On Wednesday, 21st October 1998, John-Mark Gurney wrote:

>Stephen McKay scribbled this message on Oct 21:
>> Try "awk", for example.  It uses floating point, and I think it will die.
>> "df" uses double.  "newfs" uses float.  "ls" doesn't, and it works.  It's
>> a floating point problem, or I'll eat my copy of the Pointy Hat!
>> 
>> I still think the "npx" lines from boot are relevant.
>
>ok, here are the lines:
>npx0 on motherboard
>npx0: 387 emulator
>
>these are the lines from a 2.2.6-R system that has problems running
>the binaries...

I assume they are the same when booting 3.0-R?  I am still uncomfortable
with the idea of debugging a (possibly complex) problem by running 3.0
binaries on a 2.2.x system.  It's not designed to work.  Maybe it does.
Maybe it doesn't.  I'd rather you reported the behaviour of 3.0 binaries
under a 3.0 kernel and 2.2.6 binaries under 2.2.6 kernel.  Call me
old fashioned. ;-)

>I can't see how newfs would fail (elf) but systat (a.out)
>would work perfectly fine under the same kernel if the emulator was
>broken...

Well, I kinda agree.  Bummer.  "The signs are clear, but point into the
darkness", or some such.

>oh, and fsck (a.out), newfs (a.out) and df (a.out) also
>work perfectly fine...

But, awk (elf) fails?  And say, date (elf) works?  That would point at FP
probs even if, somehow, awk (a.out) still works.

And now Robert Nordier thinks FP is involved.  I hope he can do better
than me, because I think I'm going back to the shallow end of the pool.

Good luck!

Stephen.

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