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Date:      Mon, 30 Aug 2004 00:08:02 +0300
From:      Ruslan Ermilov <ru@freebsd.org>
To:        "Simon L. Nielsen" <simon@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-doc@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ar.4 missing
Message-ID:  <20040829210802.GA40369@ip.net.ua>
In-Reply-To: <20040829200859.GD760@zaphod.nitro.dk>
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On Sun, Aug 29, 2004 at 10:08:59PM +0200, Simon L. Nielsen wrote:
> On 2004.08.29 23:02:10 +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 29, 2004 at 09:53:48PM +0200, Simon L. Nielsen wrote:
> > > On 2004.08.28 01:32:49 -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 21:27:55 +0100
> > > > Ceri Davies <ceri@submonkey.net> wrote:
> > > >=20
> > > > > On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 08:48:29PM +0200, Simon L. Nielsen wrote:
> > > > > > On 2004.08.27 20:23:32 +0200, Tilman Linneweh wrote:
> > > > > > > Am Fr, den 27.08.2004 schrieb Simon L. Nielsen um 20:20:
> > > > > > > > On 2004.08.27 20:07:25 +0200, Tilman Linneweh wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > Noticed that ar.4 is missing, although mentioned in ata.4=
, please commit or
> > > > > > > > > approve this small diff:
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~arved/stuff/ar.diff
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > That's unfortunatly not the right solution... since we have=
 another
> > > > > > > > ar(4) device, which is a NIC driver: :-/
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > >      ar -- synchronous Digi/Arnet device driver
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > It is very unfortunate IMO, but I think it's way to late to=
 fix.
> > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > Oops, you are right, i was confused because the NIC driver is=
 i386 only,
> > > > > > > and i tried "man 4 ar" on amd64.
> > > > > > > So maybe add the MLINKS only on !i386?
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > I'm not really sure if that would break POLA (as in, confusing =
people
> > > > > > more).  I have CC'ed ru, perhaps he (or someone else) has a goo=
d idea
> > > > > > on how to make this situation better.
> > > > >=20
> > > > > Personally, I don't see a problem with having "man 4 ar" give you
> > > > > something different on, say, sparc64 and i386; I vaguely remember=
 a
> > > > > similar discussion when the second ar driver was added, and the
> > > > > conclusion was that this wouldn't be a problem, I believe.
> > >=20
> > > OK, that's fine with me then, and since Ruslan hasn't complained I
> > > assume he has no strong feelings against it :-).
> > >=20
> > I did complain.  Did you miss my email?
>=20
> I haven't seen an email from you in this thread, and I just checked
> that it's not in the freebsd-doc archives either...
>=20
Odd, it looks like my mailer did something wrong, because I have it
in my mailbox, but cannot find its Message-ID: in /var/log/maillog
on my host and on our mail server.  I will resend my mail now.


Cheers,
--=20
Ruslan Ermilov
ru@FreeBSD.org
FreeBSD committer

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