Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 21:12:45 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl> To: Andrzej Bialecki <abial@nask.pl>, Jerry Hicks <jhicks@glenatl.glenayre.com> Cc: FreeBSD Small <freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Command-line i/f (Re: PicoBSD) Message-ID: <Version.32.19981003205445.0108b5e0@pop.wxs.nl> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.02A.9810020744220.703-100000@korin.warman.org.p l> References: <199810012128.RAA29146@jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com>
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At 07:59 02-10-98 , Andrzej Bialecki wrote:
>On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, Jerry Hicks wrote:
>
>> YAPL with some pretty desirable attributes for this sort of application.
I
>> believe you're right on track Adrzej.
>
>Heh.. Thanks for confirmation :-) Well, I know it's not _that_ popular
><evil grin>, but it gives tremendous programmability and
>flexibility, compared to what /bin/sh gives with much more bloat. And I'd
>rather not invent YAPL, tripping over the same pitfalls as others did -
>Forth is very mature and well defined.
Never played with Forth, what does it compare to?
>The issue here is not to rewrite all FreeBSD userland in Forth - that
>would be stupid. The problem here is to invent such an UI which could
>easily be tweaked to individual needs, and allow for automated tasks,
>while _incorporating_ necessary userland functions into it. Most
>Forth implementations I saw thus far (ca. 6) allow for relatively easy
>integration of C modules, accessible as primitive words from inside the
>interpreter.
That wasn't my suggestion, but the current setup of FreeBSD is too limiting
or too scattered throughout directories to be of any use for the picoBSD
setup. But I think that's the question, how far are ye willing to go to
preserve usability on the picoBSD setups, as far as I now can foresee, we
use these disks for quick and 'dirty' routers. How much use is there to
support every known command that don't actually add on to the purpose of
which the disks were designed (correct me if wrong offcourse =). As I see
it, we should/could use the FreeBSD cores, extend it with things like Zebra
and the likes and modify the UI/shell to resemble configuration commands
like IOS and Shiva/SpiderSoftware routing stuff...
Offcourse, just my two cents =)
Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / Asmodai <asmodai(at)wxs.nl>
ICQ-UIN: 1564317 .:. Ninth Circle Enterprises
Network/Security Specialist
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