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Date:      Tue, 15 Oct 2002 13:00:58 -0400
From:      "Mike Jakubik" <mikej@trigger.net>
To:        "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen@grosbein.pp.ru>, <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: Ifconfig config of gif tunnels
Message-ID:  <NBEDKOIFDHANCGFLAGKFCELNCOAA.mikej@trigger.net>
In-Reply-To: <20021015235427.B381@grosbein.pp.ru>

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I also think this is a bad idea. I have always ran build/installworld and
mergemaster in multiuser, and ive never had any problems with the process.
This reduces downtime significantly and also allows for remote upgrades.

Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
[mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Eugene Grosbein
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 11:54 AM
To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Re: Ifconfig config of gif tunnels


On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 05:32:50PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote:

>  >     (1) It just overwrote system files that users are not supposed to
>  >         change anyway, like files in /etc/defaults and the /etc/rc*
>  >         files.
> Additionally, I think it might be a good idea to make those
> files schg by default, and teach mergemaster to noschg/schg
> them if required.

A possibility of running mergemaster in multiuser is essential.
Playing with system immutable files when securelevel>0 is trick.
Currently temproot cannot be cleaned up after mergemaster
due to $temproot/var/empty when securelevel>0 but that's not big deal
because it's empty :)

However, having configs/scripts marked as system immutable will bring
more pain and break POLA, imho.

Eugene Grosbein

P.S. Yes, I known that running installworld and mergemaster is not
supported and is not recommended but this works most of time
and this possibility is very, very valuable thinking about
downtime.

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