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Date:      Thu, 06 Oct 2005 11:57:31 -0600
From:      Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org>
To:        Tuomo Latto <djv@mbnet.fi>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: new FreeBSD-webpage
Message-ID:  <4345658B.3070002@samsco.org>
In-Reply-To: <43455D3E.5040007@mbnet.fi>
References:  <b41c75520510060225h2eeecdd8w@mail.gmail.com>	<di2s9q$4ss$1@sea.gmane.org> <43455D3E.5040007@mbnet.fi>

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Tuomo Latto wrote:
> Alexander S. Usov wrote:
> 
>>>Just pointed firefox to freebsd.org and I was greeted with a new look!
> 
> ...
> 
>>And in general, I have already heard from quite a lot of people today that
>>the old design was quite authentic and recognizable, while the new one
>>looks as a quite standard portal.
> 
> 
> Yecch. All ugly and businesslike. This is what you'd expect from
> all sorts of companies that are all marketing and no information.
> 
> 
> You'd expect popups from the links on the top (they look like that
> sort of links), but none seem to appear and I've just wasted time
> waiting for them to appear.
> BTW, I pretty much hate popups because they seldom work
> properly and they always seem kind of sluggish. Only thing that's
> worse than having to use them is having something that looks like
> them but is not.
> 
> 
> A lot of stuff has been removed from plain sight which means
> more clicking and scrolling and searching and waiting.
> Oh yes, let's all start burying information..
> 
> Having some of the information hidden in plain sight is a nice
> touch. I mean that release stuff and "shortcuts".
> The marketing BS filter behind my eyes blocks most of the content
> on the site pretty well as it is but that release stuff and
> "shortcuts" seem to have been designed to get filtered out.
> It actually requires me conscious effort to read them.
> 
> 
> With Opera, about 40% of the screen space is left unused.
> I *liked* the quick links the old one had on the sides.
> 
> 
> Have you tried it with lynx?
> Lynx Version 2.8.5rel.1 (04 Feb 2004) doesn't seem to handle XML,
> so when you're in a pinch with your fw/gw machine that doesn't have
> X installed and you quickly need to access eg. some documentation
> on the site, you're out of luck.
> 

I tried it with lynx, links, camino, opera, safari, and mozilla.  All
rendered nicely.  It even rendered acceptably on my Treo650.

Can't please 100% of the people 100% of the time.

Scott



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