Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 22:41:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Coleman <chris@bb.cc.wa.us> To: "Jan B. Koum " <jkb@best.com> Cc: Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Advocates, speak up! (re: just something to say) Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.3.94.980703224031.23528A-100000@bb.cc.wa.us> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.980703213823.8899B-100000@shell6.ba.best.com>
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Christopher J. Coleman (whyareyou@lookingforme.com)
Computer Support Analyst I (509)-762-6341
FreeBSD Book Project: http://www.vmunix.com/fbsd-book/
On Fri, 3 Jul 1998, Jan B. Koum wrote:
>
> Here is my list of companies which would appeal to suit wearing
> droids. Lets add to it and make it biger:
>
> www.yahoo.com
> www.hotmail.com
> www.ebay.com
> www.best.com
> www.whistle.com
> www.pluris.com
> www.linkexchange.com
>
> If you have a 4 cpu PPro SMP machine with 1Gig of RAM sittig on
> the T3 serving a lot of traffic it won't make it on the list. We need
> companies which actually make money.. and A LOT of money (Yahoo, best,
> etc) from using FreeBSD.
>
> -- Yan
>
> Jan Koum jkb@best.com | "Turn up the lights; I don't want
> www.FreeBSD.org -- The Power to Serve | to go home in the dark."
> ---------------------------------------+-----------------------------------
> ICMP: What happens when you hack into a military network and they catch you.
>
> On Fri, 3 Jul 1998, Wes Peters wrote:
>
> >My hidden microphone recorded Jan B. Koum (jkb@best.com) saying:
> >
> >%
> >% Hi all,
> >%
> >% I just wanted to say something here since this list has been quite
> >% lately. Basically, many of you already know this, but anyway.
> >% Whenever I have to convince someone who is not very technical why
> >% they should use FreeBSD, I usually try not to bore them with how great our
> >% vm is, or why is it better to have centralized and hence better controlled
> >% code. I usually tell people something like this:
> >% "Look, here is an example: yahoo. Their stock is skyrocketing and
> >% they are doing excellent. Yes, they are using FreeBSD. They have in house
> >% support for it, but still, they must know what they are doing - their
> >% whole operation is FreeBSD based. Another example is Hotmail. Even though
> >% they got bought by MS, they are still using FreeBSD on the front end to
> >% run their servers since NT couldn't' handle the load. Want another
> >% example? Take a look at Best Internet -- they jut filed for IPO".
> >% Something in the lines of the above paragraph usually gets a
> >% message through to the suits that to have successful company you don't
> >% need NT or Solaris. You just need to have people with a clue. But that is
> >% another subject.
> >
> >Frank Pawlak called me yesterday to chat about what is happening, and
> >what isn't, in FreeBSD-Advocacy. As we talked, we decided success
> >stories like the above are *exactly* what we need to convince business
> >people (i.e. "suits") that FreeBSD is a suitable choice for *their*
> >business.
> >
> >Managers may not be the smartest people in the world -- if they were,
> >they'd be kernel VM developers -- but they are extremely risk averse.
> >In other words, they don't want to stick their necks out. In order
> >for them to say yes to using FreeBSD, they want to see two things:
> >
> >1) A business case. How will using FreeBSD improve their bottom line,
> > versus say NT or Linux on a server, or Linux, VxWorks, QNX, LynxOS,
> > etc. in an embedded system?
> >
> >2) A success story (or 20). They want to make sure they're NOT breaking
> > new ground; that is "risk taking," which is severely punished in most
> > (US, at least) companies.
> >
> >Frank and I agreed that an outline for a prototypical success story would
> >be helpful to this group, and an EXAMPLE success story would be even more
> >helpful. Since I volunteered to write one a while ago, he *encouraged*
> >me to get on with it. ;^)
> >
> >I'll be doing that this weekend, as long as my life doesn't intrude.
> >(See below).
> >
> >Please, folks, if you have any contributions to make in this discussion,
> >hop in now. Take the initiative like Frank did - find another Advocate,
> >or someone who should be an Advocate, call him or her on the phone, send
> >direct email.
> >
> >% Anyway, happy 4th to those who celebrate (I don't, I just enjoy
> >% the day off) and lets make some noise on this list.
> >
> >*I* spent the afternoon riding a steam train with my family, including my
> >two-year-old daughter, who walked up and down the train several times going "choo
> >choo choo." She charmed the other passengers nearly as much as she charmed
> >me; they would make whistle sounds "woo woo" as we passed. We also got to
> >meet Karl Malone, of the Utah Jazz NBA (pro basketball) team; he had rented
> >the caboose for a family outing.
> >
> >We learned a bit of American history, too: the rail route for this train,
> >through Provo Canyon in north-central Utah, was first surveyed by the US Army
> >Corps of Engineers as a possible route for the transcontinental railroad in
> >1839, by a young engineering officer named Jefferson Davis. Mr. Davis was
> >later the first (and only) president of the Confederate States of America,
> >near whose capitol I was born, as was my father and older brother.
> >
> >Happy Birthday, America!
> >
> >--
> > "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?"
> >
> >Wes Peters Softweyr LLC
> >http://www.softweyr.com/~softweyr wes@softweyr.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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