Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 13:28:04 +0200 From: Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be> To: Michael Lucas <mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org>, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Roasting Newbies Message-ID: <v04205502b423838326ed@[195.238.21.204]> In-Reply-To: <199910071840.OAA25123@blackhelicopters.org> References: <199910071840.OAA25123@blackhelicopters.org>
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At 2:40 PM -0400 1999/10/7, Michael Lucas wrote: > http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~dispatch/bsd-self-help.html Speaking as someone who has had my share of problems on this topic (and on this mailing list), I think this is a very good page. I would add that a "FreeBSD newbie" is someone who probably has less than a year's experience administering FreeBSD (or one of the closely related *BSD variants), even if they might have years of experience with other Unices. Therefore [0], even if you've been on the 'net for over fifteen years, you've been doing Unix systems administration for over ten years, you've have several years experience doing Unix systems administration at some of the largest and most complex sites in the world, if you haven't been administering FreeBSD and monitoring the various FreeBSD mailing lists for a year or more, you're probably a FreeBSD newbie. As such, most any questions you might have are almost certainly likely to be more appropriate to -questions than any other mailing list. Even if -questions turns out to be the wrong mailing list, it's better to ask your question there and be directed somewhere else (e.g., -hackers), than it is to ask your question somewhere else and be directed to -questions. IMO [1], it would also help to close the other mailing lists to posts from non-subscribers, and have -questions be the only mailing list to which non-subscribers can post. If anyone attempted to post to any mailing list other than -questions, they could get an error message returned to them that referenced the above URL. [0] Taking myself as an example, since I don't have the right or authority to use anyone else in this role. [1] Of course, I'm sure this particular point has been debated to death on some other mailing list I've haven't even heard of yet. I'm sorry for bringing this up again, but I think it is relevant to the question of newbies. -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ____________________________________________________________________ |o| Brad Knowles, <blk@skynet.be> Belgacom Skynet NV/SA |o| |o| Systems Architect, News & FTP Admin Rue Col. Bourg, 124 |o| |o| Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.11.11/12.49 B-1140 Brussels |o| |o| http://www.skynet.be Belgium |o| \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside. Unix is very user-friendly. It's just picky who its friends are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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