Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 10:42:03 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper <yanegomi@gmail.com> To: Martin Sugioarto <martin@sugioarto.com> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Chris Brennan <xaero@xaerolimit.net> Subject: Re: http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html Message-ID: <CAGH67wTHv1kz5QW-%2B1H74Ewncw31QkqUsGvfOeuVXoMLkupGrQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20110831140729.24130ea0@zelda.sugioarto.com> References: <4E5941D6.9090106@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <4E5BEF65.2010502@gmail.com> <4E5CAD9E.6050903@rktmb.org> <4E5CB49F.50806@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <4E5CBC14.4080908@rktmb.org> <4E5CF1ED.2030504@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <4E5CF417.5080503@rktmb.org> <4E5D031E.2000602@xaerolimit.net> <20110831140729.24130ea0@zelda.sugioarto.com>
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On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:07 AM, Martin Sugioarto <martin@sugioarto.com> wrote: > Am Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:34:54 -0400 > schrieb Chris Brennan <xaero@xaerolimit.net>: ... > You should compare what you can *DO* better with FreeBSD. And one thing > that comes instantly into my mind is the FreeBSD port collection (for > my part). I've tried various Linux distributions for years and there is > no such thing as FreeBSD ports in Linux world (portage comes close, but > it lacks integrity sometimes). Sadly, recent versions of portage actually have exceeded ports in terms of ease of use and non-breakage. I would have agreed with you 3-4 years ago, but the status quo has changed. That being said, even though upgrades work 99% of the time without fault in Gentoo portage, it's still way too complicated of a system for most users to work with on a day to day basis. > And that's why after using other OSes, I > always arrived back on FreeBSD. The effort which is going into ports is > amazing and (for me) the most important part of the OS. FreeBSD is one > of few systems where you can have configurable up-to-date applications > and this is what I need. And this is mostly the reason why I use > FreeBSD. Most people wouldn't necessarily agree because apart from the breadth of packages in ports, the infrastructure needs a serious overhaul to be used by less seasoned Unix folks. > I suggest that you look at the applications of FreeBSD in the world. > How people use it and why the decided to use it. I heard many people > prefer FreeBSD on web servers (yeah, Netcraft also says so). But why? > > You tell me that FreeBSD has the best IPv6 implementation? So what?! > Please tell me what you do with it, when it's "so great". > > Jails are nice, yes! There are surely scenarios where jails are needed > above every other concept. Instead of telling people about "lightweight > virtualisation"... tell them what others do with it. > > Many people are too dumb to understand technical or abstract concepts. I don't think it's that users are dumb -- just uneducated. Many people lack the time or interest to try out new OSes that don't just work (tm) out of the box. > They need examples to understand the features. Agreed. Thanks! -Garrett
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