Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 14:50:44 -0500 From: Drew Baxter <netmonger@genesis.ispace.com> To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl> Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux "best of breed?" Message-ID: <4.1.19981106144821.00ab3dc0@genesis.ispace.com> In-Reply-To: <XFMail.981106204946.asmodai@wxs.nl> References: <4.1.19981106133411.00b1a750@genesis.ispace.com>
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At 08:49 PM 11/6/98 +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: >On 06-Nov-98 Drew Baxter wrote: >> At 01:43 PM 11/6/98 +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > >>>There, there ye have it exactly. Linux is but a kernel surrounded by a chaos >>>of distributions in which some good ideas emerge. FreeBSD is an entire >>>Operating System effort. Can we even compare the two then? IMHO, yes and no. >>>Yes: we can compare the different Linux distributions and the entire FreeBSD >>>package. We can also compare the Linux kernel with the FreeBSD kernel. No, we >>>cannot compare FreeBSD to Linux without specifying what we're comparing. >> >> You're right, the packaging makes the OS. Noone cares about the core >> (nucleus) but moreso about the surrounding architecture.. Which is probably >> why Windows is bundled with a bunch of software generally. > >I very much care about the nucleus, that's why we also have nuclean members, >errr, _core_ members =) > Yeah but there's other people applying the rest of the OS. I just don't see Linux's approach 'Build a kernel, let everyone else build the rest around it".. >>>As I said before, I myself, the guru friend of mine, two associates of mine >>>all prefer FreeBSD (*BSD) over Linux for reasons that can only be described >>>as real life experience and preference for certain things. >> >> Friends of mine are all Linux heads, now suddenly they want to switch.. I'm >> like "Why?" and they can't answer.. Everyone wants to be somebody I guess. > >The term lemming applies... ;) > I think that'd be an appropriate Linux 3.0 logo whenever it comes out *eg*. >>>That's a good thing that Wes started, to accumulate the effort out there. >>>Linux users are so keen on quoting where, what and how Linux is used. I only >>>know of the picoBSD project, the Whistle InterJet, Pluto Space and the yes.no >>>website from Eivind (sorry if that is the Pluto Eivind, still working on my >>>Norwegian ;) >> >> And all those are accomplishments, definitely.. Think this though.. U-Haul >> has been around for years (US and Canada only), and they never once put an >> ad on TV.. That's a common name in a household, "Well you could get a >> U-Haul and move it..".. Sometimes you can generate better and more >> publicity from word of mouth then you ever could with these speils in CNet.. > >I came to FreeBSD by word of mouth... (sees Eivind and Jordan still regretting >the day I started posting ;) > Word of mouth is the way to go though.. Ads are generally biased or created by people that probably don't even use the stuff.. >>>Oh and btw, "Linux is obsolete" -- Andrew S. Tanenbaum >> >> Obsolete stuff usually never gets updated.. As long as there is revision, >> there will never be total obsoletion... > >Sorry, ye obviously might not know the background, and ye couldn't since it >isn't evident in one sentence =) > >Andrew and Linus were discussing kernels and Linus insisted on using a >monolithic kernel anno 1991, Andy simply said that that was obsolete (take a >look at Amoebe and Mach). Mach is rather obsolete.. but for some reason Tenon Intersystems (www.tenon.com) decided to make some sort of a Mach+BSD4.4 type thing called MachTen for Macubators.. er uh. .Mac Users. > >--- >Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai >asmodai(at)wxs.nl >Junior Network/Security Specialist >FreeBSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve... --- Drew "Droobie" Baxter Network Admin/Professional Computer Nerd(TM) OneEX: The OneNetwork Exchange 207-942-0275 http://www.droo.orland.me.us My Latest Kernel: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT (ONEEX) #14: Mon Oct 19 22:36:58 EDT 1998 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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