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Date:      Tue, 4 Apr 2000 23:51:18 +0200
From:      Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be>
To:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>
Cc:        Doug Barton <Doug@gorean.org>, David Murphy <drjolt@redbrick.dcu.ie>, stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: make world failed
Message-ID:  <v04220834b5100f2bcb7c@[195.238.1.121]>
In-Reply-To: <18940.954883378@zippy.cdrom.com>
References:  <18940.954883378@zippy.cdrom.com>

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At 2:22 PM -0700 2000/4/4, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:

>  I really am tired of people telling us what reality should be rather
>  than making that reality come about through their own efforts.

	The single biggest problem in any large volunteer effort is 
determining where your skills can be of help.


	Until you can figure that out, the project looks like one of the 
worlds largest mountains, and you can't begin to comprehend how it 
could possibly be climbed by anyone, much less completely flattened 
and reduced to plains.

	However, once you do figure that out, it starts to look more like 
some pebbles piled on top of some boulders, set in some upthrust 
bedrock that is covered with dirt -- and it starts becoming a more 
manageable problem to have you take out your shovel and start digging 
somewhere, or take out your sledgehammer and start pounding some 
rocks into smaller rocks.


	Of course, it also helps to have some time to devote to projects 
like this, but even if you've got time, if you get too many hostile 
responses then the likelihood is that you will be considerably less 
likely to devote your time to that project.

	It's one thing to want only constructive criticism, it's another 
to facilitate it.


	As David Murphy <drjolt@redbrick.dcu.ie> said before, FreeBSD is 
very welcoming to developers who run across a problem, fix it, and 
then send in the patches.

	It tends to be less welcoming to people who just want to use it, 
and don't have the talent, skills, knowledge, time, or inclination to 
try to fix the problems that they run across.


	You have to decide whether FreeBSD is going to be a 
developers-only OS, or if it is going to become more user-friendly.

	If the goal is the latter, then the quality of the documentation 
has to improve -- and not everyone who complains about the 
documentation will be able to help fix it.  This is a simple fact 
that will just have to be accepted.

	Better yet would be for POLA to be violated with less frequency 
and fewer potential destructive consequences, so that you don't need 
to improve the documentation -- the system just works, and there's no 
need to document something that "just works".  In other words, less 
is more.  ;-)

--
   These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy
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