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Date:      Mon, 27 Dec 2004 22:43:59 -0600
From:      Nikolas Britton <freebsd@nbritton.org>
To:        Chris <racerx@makeworld.com>
Cc:        Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
Subject:   Re: Need help *fast*
Message-ID:  <41D0E48F.3060609@nbritton.org>
In-Reply-To: <41D0E046.9040608@makeworld.com>
References:  <LOBBIFDAGNMAMLGJJCKNCENCEPAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com> <41D0E046.9040608@makeworld.com>

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Chris wrote:

> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Nikolas 
>>> Britton
>>> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 7:08 PM
>>> To: Broder Mizzérable
>>> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>>> Subject: Re: Need help *fast*
>>>
>>>
>>> Broder Mizzérable wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello there.. i'm switching to FreeBSD ' now '... i did try to use the
>>>> floppy installation way. but it seems like all my floppy's are 50kb to
>>>> small =/ ... so i was wondering .. is it possible to use a CD ' That
>>>> does already has stuffs on it but still boot it and download FTP wise
>>>> .. as you would do as on the floppy installation ... i do ask this cuz
>>>> i dont have any free CD's atm ..
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not quite following what you mean? You tried the standard tools to
>>> make the floppy's, like rawrite and dd? AND you did format these disk
>>> before hand to check that they didn't have bad sectors?.... I have a 
>>> big
>>> box of floppy's that have been siting in the closet and every time I
>>> need one I have to go through 20 or so bad ones that have bad 
>>> sectors or
>>> invalid media to find the one perfect one. floppy diskettes are junk
>>> thats why we stopped using them.
>>>
>>
>>
>> No, floppy diskettes are definitely not junk, there is nothing wrong
>> with the medium except that it doesen't hold enough.
>>
>> I used to work at a large software developer, Symantec formerly Central
>> Point Software (ie: PCTools)  The last floppy runs of PCTools had at
>> least 20 5.25 diskettes and about 15 3.5 floppies and Central Point
>> did their own duplicating.  There was no way in hell that floppies
>> that were anywhere near as bad as you imply could have been used for
>> commercial duplication, the reject rate would have been too high.
>>
>> The problem today is that the floppy diskettes you buy in the
>> store today are not manufactured under the high tolerances that
>> they are supposed to be, and the floppy disk drives are also
>> slopped together.  I don't know how the commercial duplicators
>> do it if any are still doing floppy runs, probably none are
>> anymore.  My guess is the few people still manufacturing them are
>> using old ratty equipment that probably should have been retired
>> years ago.
>>
>> Ted
>
>
> Good Lord! PCTools!!! Now yer talking! Even back when 95 came on like 
> 30 diskettes... or was that OS/2?

Both! :-)



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