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Date:      Fri, 23 Aug 2002 23:32:39 -0500
From:      "Jimi Thompson" <jimit@prodigy.net>
To:        "Matthew Dillon" <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>, "John Chang" <johnec@umich.edu>
Cc:        <current@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Barebone system rackmount 
Message-ID:  <017d01c24b27$48349ad0$60f33c04@win1>
References:  <20020823225907.970A32A7D6@canning.wemm.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20020823203246.02406df0@j.imap.itd.umich.edu> <4.3.2.7.2.20020823220711.02345070@j.imap.itd.umich.edu>

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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Chang" <johnec@umich.edu>
To: "Matthew Dillon" <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
Cc: <current@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: Barebone system rackmount


> I am a system administrator for Win2k/NT and Apple servers but have very
> little experience with linux/freeBSD and Apache.
>
> At 06:21 PM 8/23/2002 -0700, Matthew Dillon wrote:
>
> >:Do you know where I could get a good server rackmount barebones system
or a
> >:rackmount server with FreeBSD installed?
> >:
> >:I am looking to use it for a Web server using Apache.  And would you
know
> >:where I can buy Apache that is more secure out of the box?
> >:
> >:I basically have very little experience with FreeBSD and Apache but
since
> >:it is one of the most secure OSs I thought I would use it.  The
alternative
> >:is using Win2k Adv. Server and IIS or Apache.
> >:
> >:Do you think it is possible to be able to manage a webserver with very
> >:little experience with FreeBSD and Apache?
> >:
> >:Anyone in Ann Arbor/Detroit Michigan with experience who can help me set
> >it up?
> >:
> >:Thank you.
> >
> >     Well, FreeBSD is like other open source OSs (for example, Linux) in
that
> >     it will run on just about any PC.  I can't help you in regards to
> >     finding a rackmount system but I can give you some hints in regards
to
> >     FreeBSD and Apache.  It's hard to find a good starting point because
> >     I don't know what experience you *do* have... for example, have you
> >     played with Linux at all?  Have you ever installed Windows on a
machine?
> >
> >     Generally speaking a person exposed to an open-source system for the
> >     first time, such as FreeBSD (or Linux, or NetBSD, or OpenBSD, or
> >     whatever) has a small hurdle to leap over which is the fact that
> >     the installation sequence presumes a certain degree of knowledge
about
> >     UNIX.  For example even the best GUI installer gives you the chance
> >     to 'partition the hard drive'.  But if you don't know what that
means
> >     you can wind up stuck and confused even if the installer gives you a
> >     default way of doing things.  Only so much can be hidden by a GUI
> >     installer and the more software you install and manage, the more you
> >     are exposed to the innards of the operating system.
> >
> >     What I recommend more then anything else is:
> >
> >     (1) Get or burn the CDs and just start playing with FreeBSD on a
> >         box you can afford to blow away (the disk) on.
> >
> >     (2) Locate a friend or associate who already has some experience
> >         with open-source operating systems and ask him to help you get
> >         things going.  Having someone show you the ropes in-person is a
> >         thousand times more effective then over a mailing list.
> >
> >     With that all said you basically install FreeBSD from the CDRom set.
> >     http://www.freebsd.org is a good starting point.  You don't have to
> >     purcahse the CDs, you can locate the ISO images, download, and burn
> >     the CDs yourself.  Then install and you are on your way!  Once you
> >     have the system operational you can install various ports and
packages
> >     using the FreeBSD ports system.  It's not really possible to go into
> >     full detail because that would take days to explain.
> >
> >     For someone just starting out, be sure to install a -stable release
of
> >     FreeBSD.  Do not try to install the -current development version.
> >
> >                                         -Matt
> >                                         Matthew Dillon
> >                                         <dillon@backplane.com>
>
>
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