Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 21:50:11 +0800 (TSD) From: "Victor A. Sudakov" <vas@vas.tomsk.su> To: adrian@obiwan.psinet.net.au (Adrian Chadd) Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPP problems. Message-ID: <199706121350.VAA10519@vas.tomsk.su> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.95q.970612080119.2812A-100000@obiwan.psinet.net.au> from "Adrian Chadd" at "Jun 12, 97 08:06:46 am"
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Adrian Chadd wrote: > > > > Are you a provider? What is your company's attitude to clients running unix? > > I'm a sysadmin at an ISP, yes.. and I love people running unix. > In fact, I've setup a lot of boxes for people who want to try it out, > sadly though its never "Joe Bloggs" type average net user at home. Are you sure the user support people from your company are also looking forward to it? You are an admin, and you do not work directy with customers, do you? > > May be I am somehow a special case but I have setup client internet software > > on five platforms (MS-DOS, OS/2, Windows 3.1, Windows 95, FreeBSD) and > > FreeBSD turned out to be the easiest. OS/2 was a nighmare. > > I've never done dialup with OS/2 (only ethernet) and that wasn't hard. Probably you were using Warp Connect? I was using just Warp 3 and I do not have pleasant memories about its Internet Connection Kit. And the ugly lame Web Explorer, it would not speak Russian without hacking and patching. > I have also set up net connections using Linux (since thats what is used > around here, something I'm trying to change:-). Do you really think there is any need to change anything? Linux is better than NT, anyway. Let Linux be a pathmaker for us, we can port software from it later ;-) > > Yes I agree admins should speak their piece, but they can't HOPE to get > anywhere until we have something to back it up. FreeBSD currently is > nowhere NEAR user-friendly enough for the Windows-comfortable people at > home. We would need something that came with X straight off, possibly wabi No. The point is different. I am not dreaming of persuading home users to trash their windows and install unix. ISPs just should remain compatible with clients running unix (sounds sad, doesn't it) and neither use any proprietary hardware, protocols, nor conceal any information from customers they need to setup a unix system. -- Victor Sudakov http://www.tomsk.su/r/persons/vas.htm
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