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Date:      Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:02:28 +0100
From:      Peter Schuller <peter.schuller@infidyne.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Cc:        Chris <chrcoluk@gmail.com>, Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>, Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7
Message-ID:  <200803101102.42533.peter.schuller@infidyne.com>
In-Reply-To: <BMEDLGAENEKCJFGODFOCIEHDCFAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com>
References:  <BMEDLGAENEKCJFGODFOCIEHDCFAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com>

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> The people complaining about hardware compatibility need
> to pull their heads out.  If they are buying brand new systems
> they are utter fools if they don't check out in advance
> what works and what doesen't.  It's not like there's a
> shortage of experienced people on this list who could
> tell them what to buy.  And if after the fact they find out
> their shiny new PC won't run FreeBSD - then they take it
> back to the retailer and exchange it for a different model.
> Why is this so difficult?

The difficulty is not in checking out hardware before hand, the problem is=
=20
=46INDING hardware that satisfies your requirements. Just because I know th=
at=20
NIC so-and-so is recommended, it does not mean that I can find a complete=20
server that:

* Is within the budget.
* Whose NIC is recommended for use in FreeBSD.
* Whose disk/raid controller is recommended for use in FreeBSD
  - Including proper handling of write caching, cache flushing, etc
* Is being sold in a fashion that is acceptable with respect to hardware=20
support / replacement parts.
* Otherwise is known to work with well FreeBSD.

If you are a large company buying 200 servers I'm sure it's not a problem t=
o=20
get sample servers to try things on, or go for more expensive options just=
=20
because of perceived FreeBSD compatibility.=20

If you're a poor sod trying to get *one* machine for personal or small-comp=
any=20
use and you want something that works and is stable, especially if you want=
=20
it rack mountable, it is NOT necessarily trivial. Part of it is the problem=
=20
of finding a solution that meets the requirements, and parts of it is about=
=20
figuring out whether a particular solution DOES meet the requirements.

=46or example, once your cheaper Dell server has arrived and you suddenly n=
otice=20
that it's delivered without a BBU, and clearly has write caching turned on=
=20
based on performance, try asking (remember, this is a lonely customer with =
a=20
single service) Dell hardware support whether that particular controller wi=
ll=20
honor cache flush requests right down to the constituent drives... I did, a=
nd=20
eventually got a response after 1-2 weeks. But the response was such that I=
=20
could not feel confident that the question was accurately forwarded to the=
=20
right individual.

=2D-=20
/ Peter Schuller

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