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Date:      Tue, 25 Jul 2006 21:16:38 -0500
From:      "Nikolas Britton" <nikolas.britton@gmail.com>
To:        "User Freebsd" <freebsd@hub.org>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
Subject:   Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
Message-ID:  <ef10de9a0607251916x27901170tb4a0afe765ac2b80@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20060725200328.R17979@ganymede.hub.org>
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On 7/25/06, User Freebsd <freebsd@hub.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
> > Oops, forgot about that.  Use 5.x then.  The statement is that newer
> > versions of FreeBSD are slower than older versions.  The point was that
> > this isn't relevant to 90% of users for reasons I already cited.
>
> IMHO, I'm not so concerned about my servers being slower then older
> versions, but the fact that, in some cases, we seem to be going backwards
> are far as stability is concerned ...
>
> I've recently been experiencing lock ups with the three servers that I've
> upgraded to 6.x ... one of which is <1 year old, the other two are 3 years
> old ... after getting everything setup with DDB, to the point that I could
> provide some very detailed traces, and core dumps, it looks like the
> problem is the one thing common between all three servers: the iir driver
> ... the two older machines are running Intel 0CH RAID controllers, the
> newer one an ICP Vortex card ... both were rock solid machines under 4.x
> ...
>
> If you check ICP Vortex's web site, you will actually find *vendor
> supported* drivers (and CLIs) for both fbsd4 and fbsd5 but nadda for 6 or
> 7 ... so, from looking at that, it looks like they have bail'd on the
> newer FreeBSDs ...
>
> So, for me, it isn't a performance issue, its what looks to be a shrinking
> hardware vendor support ...
>

ICP Vortex is an Adaptec company and Adaptec doesn't support FreeBSD.
We've already been over this once.

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