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Date:      Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:08:34 -0400
From:      Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu>
To:        pwn <pwnedomina@gmail.com>
Cc:        Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: freebsd installation order
Message-ID:  <20081029190834.GC8360@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
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On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 06:39:16PM +0000, pwn wrote:

> Jerry McAllister escreveu:
> >On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 05:56:01PM +0000, pwn wrote:
> >
> >  
> >>Jerry McAllister escreveu:
> >>    
> >>>On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 01:43:23PM +0000, pwn wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>>      
> >>>>immediately after the installation of FreeBSD what steps should be 
> >>>>performed by order
> >>>>1 - Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel
> >>>>2 - The Cutting Edge
> >>>>3 - Updating FreeBSD
> >>>>
> >>>>Is this the proper order?
> >>>>   
> >>>>        
> >>>I would say, first update FreeBSD src and rebuild.
> >>>Then update the ports tree
> >>>Then, if you must, configure a custom kernel - or if
> >>>nothing is critical, just skip that.
> >>>
> >>>Then, install what ports you want and start running.
> >>>
> >>>As for cutting edge, do you mean tracking CURRENT?
> >>>If so, if you are using it to get in on FreeBSD development, then
> >>>do that now and daily.    If it is a server for something, then don't 
> >>>do that.  Just periodically or if some important patch comes put, pull 
> >>>in the latest security fixes with update.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>////jerry
> >>> 
> >>>      
> >>just to clarify
> >>
> >>I would say, first update FreeBSD src and rebuild. Then update the ports 
> >>tree
> >>Re:both this task can be done using csup or cvsup and using the samples 
> >>provided in /usr/share/examples/cvsup/
> >>    
> >
> >Yup.   That is what I use.
> >
> >  
> >>Then, if you must, configure a custom kernel 
> >>Re:(taking a look on hardware and editing generic for example)
> >>    
> >
> >Unless you are running something where absolute maximum performance
> >is critical, don't bother removing things from the kernel.  Just
> >limit customizing to adding those things you need that are not
> >in by default - some drivers, maybe.
> >
> >  
> >>As for cutting edge, do you mean tracking CURRENT? 
> >>Re:yes, but i dont want get in on FreeBSD dev team, so i guess STABLE is 
> >>enought.
> >>
> >>    
> >
> >So, yup.   You seem to have it.
> >
> >////jerry
> >  
> on this page 
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html 
> it says:
> Tip: By default, when you build a custom kernel, all kernel modules will 
> be rebuilt as well. If you want to update a kernel faster or to build 
> only custom modules, you should edit /etc/make.conf before starting to 
> build the kernel:

It would take more time to edit /etc/make.conf than you would
save in the kernel build.    If you are doing lots of kernel
builds while doing development, maybe then this would be worthwhile,
but kernel builds do not take enough time on modern machines to
bother speeding them up trivial amounts.   Basically, this is 
saying you can fix things up so that it only builds those modules
that you are changing when you do a rebuild and skips the others.

This is not relevant to general system performance, just kernel
builds.

////jerry

> 
> isnt enought editing the configuration file?  part of the devices listed 
> there use modules that do not interest me which can i delete or comment, 
> why the use of /etc/make.conf ?
> also, its possible to automate all this pos-installation tasks in order 
> to get things running fast and optimized? (i know /etc/make.conf can be 
> used for this) but there are other methods that require spendless time?
> 
> >  
> >>
> >>    
> >>> 
> >>>      
> >>>>there is some set of rules to be followed post-installation?
> >>>>since, i do not find any reference mentioning the order that should be 
> >>>>followed immediately after installation i would like to be informed if 
> >>>>possible what will be the proper order to facilitate the maintenance of 
> >>>>the operating system and the installation of new applications without 
> >>>>conflicts or problems with ports.
> >>>>thank you.
> >>>>
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> >>>>   
> >>>>        
> >>> 
> >>>      
> >
> >  
> 



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