Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 00:06:20 -0600 From: Stephen Hurd <shurd@sasktel.net> To: David Kelly <dkelly@HiWAAY.net> Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apple moving to x86 Message-ID: <42A68ADC.9040900@sasktel.net> In-Reply-To: <C0993639-53E8-4690-AD2B-CF8B21A67536@HiWAAY.net> References: <b41c755205060614186bb2a201@mail.gmail.com> <42A4FD3F.70407@pacific.net.sg> <c389a04d050607070752998e86@mail.gmail.com> <44y89mb1e0.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20050607175303.GA96525@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> <42A62D8D.2020100@digitalarcadia.net> <30399E44-07C0-4F3B-9B1C-9F4B2E020E9C@HiWAAY.net> <42A6617A.5010908@sasktel.net> <C0993639-53E8-4690-AD2B-CF8B21A67536@HiWAAY.net>
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David Kelly wrote: > > On Jun 7, 2005, at 10:09 PM, Stephen Hurd wrote: > >> David Kelly wrote: >> >> >>> Think possibly I didn't speak clearly enough. Apple is not >>> *adding* commodity-ness to their product line. Thinking about it >>> I'd bet part of the deal with Intel is a special crypto block or >>> similar in the CPU uniquely identifying it as an Apple Blessed >>> CPU. Apple does this very thing with disk drives. Originally Apple >>> SCSI drivers would only format and configure Apple-blessed drives. >>> Currently the same thing holds true for internal CD/DVD drives. >>> But put the same non-Apple drive on Firewire and MacOS is happy >>> with it. >>> >> >> You must be dealing with an older "originally" than I. I've >> replaced the 40MB HD in an SE/30 with a 700-oddMB IBM one from a PS/ >> 2 with no issues. Ditto for a pair of uh... *goes and looks* IIci >> macs. Are we talking way back when Apple didn't use standard SCSI-1 >> (Which, I think is because there was no formal standard)? May as >> well complain that you couldn't replace the "non-standard" 800k >> floppy with a "standard" 720k one. > > > No, "Apple SC Setup" would not do a non-Apple SCSI drive. This might > have changed with MacOS 9. MacOS X has never complained about any IDE > HD I have tried. I never had a problem and was using either System 6 or System 7 (Never could justify shelling out for an OS for them) I don't remember *exactly* how I did it, but since they didn't have Internet connectivity at the time, nor a modem, I must have used stuff that came with the system. Also, I don't remember any difficulties at all. Not to say I didn't have any at all, this was years ago, but since this was among the very first things I ever did with my very own Mac, I believe I would remember having issues such as "cannot partition the drive". The larger SCSI HDs still persist in being the only drive in those systems. I also remember at work having gobs of external SCSI HDs hanging off of almost every Mac... very few of which had the Apple of happiness on the front. I suppose if I got *really* curious, I could fire 'em up and take a peek. I doubt I will though.
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