Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 00:17:53 +0100 From: Mark Ovens <mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org> To: Jamie Jones <jamie@bishopston.net> Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The Power to Serve England Message-ID: <20000611001753.D233@parish> In-Reply-To: <200006102300.AAA34070@bishopston.net>; from jamie@bishopston.net on Sun, Jun 11, 2000 at 12:00:43AM %2B0100 References: <20000610235213.A233@parish> <200006102300.AAA34070@bishopston.net>
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On Sun, Jun 11, 2000 at 12:00:43AM +0100, Jamie Jones wrote:
>
> > Well, since Plaid Cymru and the SNP fought for, and have got,
> > the first step towards independence, because they wanted Wales and
> > Scotland to have a separate identity to England, why is it so wrong
> > for we English to have a separate identity from Scotland and Wales?
> >
> > I wouldn't have a problem with
> > {wales,scotland,ireland}.{consultants,jobs,media.tv} etc.
> >
> > Maybe you, personally, don't hold with devolution but many do and they
> > can't have it both ways.
>
> I thought I made it clear that I was referring to the practicalities
> of duplicating newsgroups, across hierarchies which are similar as
> far as the above mentioned newsgroups are concerned.
>
> This has nothing to do with devloution, or the politics thereof.
>
The following, from you original post sounded political to me:
I can see no reason shouldn't be
under the uk heirarchy, or is this more a political than
geographical split ?
[snip]
What are so special about these groups, as to not include us
Welsh, or the Scots and Irish ?
If they weren't meant that way then I apologize, I'm not trying to start
a political debate/flamewar here.
> I don't have a "problem" with england.* groups, but it seems silly
> to recreate groups in england.* that are already in uk.* where there
> is no cultural reason to have them duplicated inside england.* (or
> indeed wales.* etc)
>
A quick search of my ISPs newsgroups for "england" only threw up these
(except for New England related ones):
alt.england.sux
alt.england.sux.scotland.and.wales.rule.the.world
alt.england.sux.wales.and.scotland.rule.the.world
[no comment]
> I hope the people who set up england.* don't have the same chip on
> their shoulder that you seem to!
>
I don't have a chip on my shoulder. I obviously misinterpreted your
comments and I apologize.
> Cheers,
> Jamie
>
> ..
>
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