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Date:      Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:57:57 -0400
From:      Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu>
To:        Gary Gatten <Ggatten@waddell.com>
Cc:        "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion)
Message-ID:  <20100729145757.GA22150@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
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On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 04:59:34PM -0500, Gary Gatten wrote:

> Will someone PLEASE kill this thread!  Moderator(s)?

This is an unmoderated list.

////jerry



> 
> PS: Whomever wrote the comment a few posts back about calling support for "Agnostix" and they always said "not enough information..."  You sir are a freaking comedic GENIUS!
> 
> G
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Robey
> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 3:47 PM
> To: Dale Scott
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion)
> 
> Dale Scott wrote:
> > Personally, I enjoy our mascot Beastie, as well as the Beastie-influenced official logo. I also smile when I see Casper, Wendy andHotStuff.
> >  However, I also accept there are individuals who understand these symbols differently than me, and that I may be alienating them to my 
> > detriment.  It seems consumer products need to be mindful of cultural 
> > differences, is FreeBSD different? A larger community and increased OS market share wouldn't be all that bad, would it?
> > 
> > I hope that those of you who believe in FreeBSD but with a personal conflict with the mascot or logo,
> >  band together and propose a complementary alternate symbol. I don't 
> > mean flooding the mail list (it's obvious we can do that on our own), 
> > I'm talking about difficult time-consuming organization, lobbying, and 
> > support gathering. For me, I hope Beastie endures forever - he our first and legacy mascot - but I also wouldn't object to one or two more officially sanctioned mascots and logos either. 
> > 
> > Dale Scott
> 
> God, I rewrote this 4 times, because I need to be careful and correct here.
> First, there is no honest reason why people of differing opinions can't get
> along.  If others have problems with me having my own beliefs, I won't force
> them to live my way, but they must respect my own choices too.  The major point
> here, though, is a historical one: appeasement does not work, and even the
> attempt leads to problems.
> 
> The point is, no sane person really believes that Beastie equates to devil
> worship, and I don't like the idea of letting crazies dictate my life.
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