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Date:      Fri, 13 Jul 2001 09:35:01 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Matthew Jacob <mjacob@feral.com>
To:        Bruce Evans <bde@zeta.org.au>
Cc:        Jim Bryant <kc5vdj@yahoo.com>, scsi@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: oddity with dump(8) or sa(4) in -current
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0107130934370.74809-100000@beppo>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0107131931550.34434-100000@besplex.bde.org>

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On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Bruce Evans wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Matthew Jacob wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Jim Bryant wrote:
> > > On a side note, what happened to the "raw" device nodes [/dev/*rsa*]? I'm guessing that the lack of "raw" nodes doesn't make a diff,
> > > as /dev/*sa* are all character-mode devices.
> > 
> > No, all devices are block devices now. Linux has no raw, FreeBSD has no
> > cooked. Feh.
> 
> No.  No devices are block devices now (or yesterday; block devices
> went away in 4.0).  Linux has no character disk devices; FreeBSD has
> no block disk devices.  Feh.  Tapes are a little different from disks.

Really? I'll have to tell the ANSI SCSI committee!

> Neither FreeBSD nor Linux has block tape devices, but FreeBSD used to
> have them.  /dev/*rsa* didn't go away; they were just renamed to
> /dev/*sa*.  The old /dev/*sa* went away. :-)
> 
> Bruce
> 
> 


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