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Date:      Wed, 9 Feb 2005 22:50:51 +0000
From:      Ceri Davies <ceri@submonkey.net>
To:        "Andrew L. Gould" <algould@datawok.com>
Cc:        freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Logo Contest
Message-ID:  <20050209225051.GC18759@submonkey.net>
In-Reply-To: <200502091643.15882.algould@datawok.com>
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On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 04:43:15PM -0600, Andrew L. Gould wrote:
> On Wednesday 09 February 2005 04:27 pm, Shawn Harrison wrote:
> > Robert Watson wrote [02/09/05 3:13 PM]:
> > > On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Andrew L. Gould wrote:
> > >> I was particularly pleased to read a comment on Daemon News that
> > >> Beastie would remain the mascot and that the logo and mascot are
> > >> being separated.  I am hopeful that this comment was accurate.
> > >
> > > The comment is accurate.  We'd like to get a logo we can provide to
> > > companies that are willing to stick it on their products as
> > > "supporting FreeBSD" -- while we all love the Daemon, we know that
> > > not every company can stick it on their Ethernet card box or server
> > > support web page.  The intent is to keep Beastie as the Mascot, and
> > > you'll still see him all over the place.  I can't imagine that
> > > FreeBSD t-shirts will stop holding him, let alone the large number
> > > of web pages, CDROM distributions, and so on. And don't forget the
> > > stuffed animal Beasties :-).
> >
> > I'm glad to hear this, because the announcement paragraph about
> > "religious sensitivities" would certainly lead one to a different
> > conclusion. If what you're saying is honest, then that paragraph is
> > entirely beside the point.
> >
> > The real point is to have a professional looking _logo_ to
> > _complement_ (not replace) the cute mascot. That makes sense.
> > Replacing the mascot with something else for the reasons cited in
> > that paragraph does not make sense.
> >
> > --
> > Shawn Harrison
>=20
> I think that hits the nail on the head; but that's not the message that=
=20
> got out.

The message that got out is not finished.
Twelve hours ago I was still in discussion with various people over
exactly what the announcement will say, and as far as I'm aware that
has still not been finalised and I sure as hell have not seen an
announcement being made.

Two weeks ago everyone got excited because there was a pixel tracker
named g5powerbook.gif on apple.com - look what that got us.  Wait for
the announcement.

> I've been reading the fallout both on this list and=20
> freebsd-questions.  There's a lot of unnecessary heat out there.
>=20
> Can an "official someone" send out an official message emphasizing the=20
> following:
>=20
> 1. Beastie is the mascot.  This will remain unchanged.
>=20
> 2. We need a professional logo, separately and regardless of PC=20
> (Political Correctness) issues.

That's the idea, but I am not the "official someone" that you are
looking for.  Wait for the announcement.

Ceri
--=20
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm
not sure about the former.			  -- Einstein (attrib.)

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