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Date:      Thu, 31 Oct 1996 13:10:31 -0800 (PST)
From:      Mark Crispin <MRC@Panda.COM>
To:        "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@ki.net>
Cc:        chat@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: /var/mail (was: re: Help, permission problems...)
Message-ID:  <MailManager.846796231.5917.mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NEB.3.95.961031154501.8545K-100000@quagmire.ki.net>

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On Thu, 31 Oct 1996 15:48:28 -0500 (EST), Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> 	Wait, we were talking about 1777'd /var/mail, not 775...I don't
> have the option with your software of setting /var/mail to 775..or do
> I?

No, you don't.

775/setgid is the other religion, adhered to by many SVR4 and Linux systems.
They think they a monopoly on the truth, just like the FreeBSD people with the
755/system-call-lock religion.

> > For your information, there are sites which use imapd to access
> > NFS-mounted spools.
> 	Sounds like that defeats the purpose (or, perceived purpose) of
> IMAP.

Yes, it does.  But people do it.  They do it even after they are told not to
do it.

I haven't even mentioned the PC users who expect to NFS-mount a UNIX mail
spool using their PC NFS software and read their mail on the PC using Eudora.
"The horror, the horror..."

> I think that if 1777 is considered "appropriate" for
> IMAP, there should also be a check to see if the spool is NFS-mounted and
> give an error accordingly for that too

I don't understand what you gain by giving a "Your mail file is NFS mounted, I
won't let you read it" error.

Anyway, there is no portable way to determine if a directory is NFS-mounted.
There was an undocumented portable way on SVR4, but SUN broke it in Solaris
2.5.




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