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Date:      Fri, 27 Jul 2001 14:30:45 -0300
From:      "Daniel C. Sobral" <daniel.sobral@tcoip.com.br>
To:        Mike Tancsa <mike@sentex.net>
Cc:        Shawn Ramsey <shawn@cpl.net>, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Crashing every two hours!
Message-ID:  <3B61A545.4010803@tcoip.com.br>
References:  <5.1.0.14.0.20010727073615.029e9058@192.168.0.12>

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Mike Tancsa wrote:

> At 09:55 PM 7/26/2001 -0700, Shawn Ramsey wrote:
> 
>> I just upgraded one of our servers from 4.1.1. That server had never
> 
> 
> 
> Can you provide some more details about hardware, kernel config etc ?  
> Also, see the handbook on how to provide a crash dump. With that info, 
> people might be able to better diagnose what your problem is.


That information is no longer in the handbook. Now it can only be found 

in the developers-handbook. Alas, let me take this opportunity to complain 

about this lousy idea. Normal users, much more than developers, need

the information on how to compile a kernel to provide the information,
how to extract such information, and what to extract.

Sure, a developer can understand better and do things like select the 
appropriate frame and display the appropriate variables, but compiling a 
kernel for debug symbols, locating the crash dumps, calling gdb on them 
with symbol table and typing "list" and "bt" helps a lot already, and 
the user can then be further instructed in what to do.

-- 
Daniel C. Sobral                   (8-DCS)
Daniel.Sobral@tcoip.com.br
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dcs@freebsd.org
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