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Date:      Wed,  1 Dec 2004 05:44:37 +0100
From:      Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@online.fr>
To:        Brad Knowles <brad@stop.mail-abuse.org>
Cc:        freebsd-chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: The beastie boot menu.
Message-ID:  <1101876277.41ad4c35e3deb@imp1-q.free.fr>
In-Reply-To: <p06200708bdd2c5c2599c@[10.0.1.2]>
References:  <20041129024602.GA23324@turingmachine.mentalsiege.net> <1101748454.41ab58e61eb88@imp2-q.free.fr> <FA1860B97FADCA625C68119A@[192.168.1.16]> <1101788709.41abf62519b57@imp2-q.free.fr> <20041130002603.692153b7.cpressey@catseye.mine.nu> <p06002035bdd1f81925dd@[10.0.1.3]> <20041130145130.0aa893f1.cpressey@catseye.mine.nu> <20041130230214.GA39964@xor.obsecurity.org> <20041130162403.567a4e39.cpressey@catseye.mine.nu> <p06200708bdd2c5c2599c@[10.0.1.2]>

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Brad Knowles wrote:
> 	You see more crime in New York City than you do in Norman
> Oklahoma.  Most of that is due to the fact that NYC proper has
> something like eight million people living there, while the
> population of Norman is just under 100,000, when all the University
> students are in town and attending classes.

Bad example.  You see less crime in New York City, post-1990 anyway,
than in many smaller cities like Baltimore and Chicago.  And even in
NYC you see more crime in the low-density suburbs and less in
high-density Manhattan.

Kris and others: let's leave Dragonfly out of it.  Nobody mentioned
Dragonfly, except me in my first posting, and that was only to say that
the boot menu lives on.  Nobody's advocating Dragonfly to end-users and
certainly not to production environments yet.

The concerns about FreeBSD started to grow well before Dragonfly.
The specific concern I raised was that nobody who matters cares about
user-friendliness.  This thread seems to confirm that.  I suspect
that all those who used to care about it now work for Apple...

Rahul



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