Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 19:59:16 +0500 From: "Haikal Saadh" <wyldephyre2@yahoo.com> To: "'Annelise Anderson'" <andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu>, "'leegold'" <leegold@operamail.com> Cc: <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>, <doc@freebsd.org> Subject: RE: ppp.conf Message-ID: <001301c19079$66fc5520$62c801ca@warhawk> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10112281139160.69885-100000@andrsn.stanford.edu>
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[cc'ed to doc, rant about ppp docs] *snip ppp.conf rant* > The man page for ppp is detailed but includes a step-by-step > description of what to do. > > Remember that FreeBSD has two different implementations of > the point-to-point protocol, user ppp and kernel ppp. You > use one or the other, not both. User ppp is the most up-to- > date and the one to which the ppp manual page refers (the > other is pppd). > > Also keep in mind that there's dial-up and dial-in. You > want to dial-up your ISP, not set up your computer (right > now) to accept dial-in. * snip* > > ppp-on, ppp-off, what's ppp.conf.sample? Print it out and spend a > > couple hrs figuring it out - is there a doc. that will take > me thru it > > line by line? Wwould be a real help for people of average > > intelligence. The man does have a point, I think, maybe we should take the default and papchap sections from ppp.conf.sample, and put it in ppp.conf.sample.for.plain.old.ISP or something of the sort. <rant> Speaking from personal experience, trying to construct my own ppp.conf file from the man page/handbook led me to nothing but misery...took the better part of a week before I wised, threw everything into the wind, and just substitued my ISP's phone number and logon info into the papchap section of ppp.conf.sample, and have never looked back. Honestly, I do believe that the docco does make mountains out of molehills. ( This was trying to get 3.1 on the 'net, have not read the new handbook section, but I think the manpage is definitely more useful as a reference than an instructional document. Nothing wring with that in itself, btw) I mean the sections for dial-in and ppp filters is helpful (and I did chase them up later, they are useful,), but I think it's an information overload for a newbie. I wholeheartedly recommend making the ppp.conf sample file the first stop before chasing up anything else. </rant> _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message
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