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Date:      Thu, 20 Jun 1996 09:10:04 -0700
From:      "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" <michaelv@HeadCandy.com>
To:        "Andrew V. Stesin" <stesin@elvisti.kiev.ua>
Cc:        dutchman@spase.nl (Kees Jan Koster), hardware@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: AMD 586 in P24T slot? -- No, P24"D" one 
Message-ID:  <199606201610.JAA28073@MindBender.HeadCandy.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 20 Jun 96 14:35:45 %2B0300. <199606201135.OAA13309@office.elvisti.kiev.ua> 

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># > 	Try another CPU -- Intel or AMD (AMD 5x86 strongly recommended,
># > 	in case your motherboard supports it.  If it doesn't, you
># > 	may try jumper settings for Intel P24D -- theyr'e Ok
># > 	for AMD 133 too)

># Ummmm. Now this sounds interesting. I lived under the assumption that I
># needed a special mainboard to sport an AMD 133.

> 	You wasn't 100% correct. As about recent 486 boards,
> 	they usually have AMD 133 explicitly listed in jumper
> 	setting sheets.  As about older ones, the things aren't
> 	so simple -- you might be lucky with a guessed probability
> 	of above 80%.

To be more precise, the 5x86 is just a marketing name.  It's really a
486DX4.  The two things that make it different from "traditional" 486s
are that it has 16K write-back cache (most 486s have 8K write-through
cache; but even Intel makes their 486DX4s with 16K write-back cache
these days), and it runs at a faster clock than any other "486" (AMD
stops their 486DX4 line at 120MHz, and calls the chips above that
5x86, even though they're identical except for the clock speed
[486DX4/100 is 3x33.3MHz, 486DX4/120 is 3x40MHz, and 5x86/133 is
4x33.3MHz]).

>	For a pity, attempts to use 5x133 in older boards might
>	cause the nessesity of motherboard's BIOS firmware upgrade :(

My BIOS doesn't even know what a DX4 is, but my 5x86 is still working
OK.  The only thing is that it runs in write-through mode instead of
write-back.  But my L2 cache is write-back, so it's not a huge
penalty.

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