Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 19:15:58 +0100 From: Chris Rees <utisoft@gmail.com> To: Tom Evans <tevans.uk@googlemail.com> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Zhihao Yuan <lichray@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Providing a default graphical environment on FreeBSD Message-ID: <CADLo83-S%2ByJBt_QCFTWeV7W7t6HNhze%2Bc7aqL8qEB_3hYAuOfQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAFHbX1LjPXdU3c=g5DJkgEcD4QvrYQ3yvt=e__gD%2B7HMV1UHiQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <BLU0-SMTP510B16745B704C714268E2D5950@phx.gbl> <CAGsORuAbLJOU2Nr0jishLmHN22kro3Jf63U5vN%2B4MsYrbniOxw@mail.gmail.com> <CAFHbX1LjPXdU3c=g5DJkgEcD4QvrYQ3yvt=e__gD%2B7HMV1UHiQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On 17 Sep 2012 17:22, "Tom Evans" <tevans.uk@googlemail.com> wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Zhihao Yuan <lichray@gmail.com> wrote: > > I definitely agree with this. Sun has a book, "UNIX Essentials > > featuring the Solaris...", and GUI takes a big part in the book. A > > default GUI is essential to a modern UNIX. FreeBSD can no longer > > regard GUI as a third-party bonus. > > This is according to *your* use cases though. There are many of us who > do not put X - or any graphical environment - on our FreeBSD servers. > > If FreeBSD did not regard a GUI as an optional 3rd party component, > that would mean bringing Xorg, and a specified default WM into base - > potentially even dbus and hald as well. IMO that would be a waste of > time and resources, as both Xorg and most WM have rapid development > changes - just look at how many issues are brought up on x11@ when > there are new upgrades of Xorg available. > > As well as this, Xorg versions would have to remain relatively stable > during minor releases, meaning if you DO want X11, then you are being > hamstrung by requiring it in base. > > Status quo for me please. Time and time again, this comes up. Being official does not mean it should be in base. Chris
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