Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 17:15:46 GMT From: attila! <attila@hun.org> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: maybe "BSD Unix" (was Re: FreeBSD [3.1] is Unix ??? (Was: Re: 3.1 Release splash image)) Message-ID: <199902281715.RAA12252@hun.org>
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NB> anyone who wants to agree/argue with me, please use
private mail; please don't clutter the list further
than I am doing now...
to cut to the chase:
BSD Unix
should sidestep X/Open and to my mind implies the best of
both worlds; or even
freeBSD, [the true-blue] descendant of Berkeley Unix
which is certainly justifiable having been down the road
since bsd4.0...
personally, I object to "unix like" which leaves open the
question:
'...unix like? why dont you use real unix?'
personally, after 25+ years of un*x, I have never seen two
identical versions of "Unix" (or even closely related), even
on identical hardware. why should one of very few lineal
descendants of Unix be forced into the non-compatibles camp?
the only point of convergence and standardization of the
AT&T and Berkeley worlds was when Sun, under contract to
AT&T's Unix International subsidiary merged AT&T SysV R4 to
SunOS and more or less buried the problem of sockets
v. named pipes --and then AT&T sold Unix International to
Novell so old Ray could try to make IPX be the wrapper for
IP... Ray crashed and burned against the wall on that one,
subsequently transferring title to "Unix" to X/Open.
once burned, twice learned Ray is currently the money behind
Caldera and possibly on his way to winning an anti-trust
action against M$ for M$' shabby treatment of anyone trying
to load Windoz on DR-DOS.
in the mid-80s, when every Tom, Dick, and Harry had a un*x
hardware box (over 100 at one point), the hardware vendors
could not even maintain backwards compatibility in their own
point releases, which was the major factor in driving ISPs
away from un*x in droves and handing the market to Bill
Gate$ by default (may the bloated pig impload).
attila out...
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