Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 00:31:36 +0100 From: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> To: Michael Sierchio <kudzu@tenebras.com> Cc: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" <steve@sohara.org>, FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Rust in base Message-ID: <20200125003136.a1485866.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <CAHu1Y70UmJB=cgq=an_gqv4ao==H2t5wCxqOudMO_mpX8Ra-pA@mail.gmail.com> References: <775662956.5865.1579896175788.JavaMail.zimbra@antonovs.family> <20200124221319.d4e7fa438cbb1f30da10af2d@sohara.org> <CAHu1Y70UmJB=cgq=an_gqv4ao==H2t5wCxqOudMO_mpX8Ra-pA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, 24 Jan 2020 15:00:48 -0800, Michael Sierchio wrote: > On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 2:13 PM Steve O'Hara-Smith <steve@sohara.org> wrote: > > > On Fri, 24 Jan 2020 20:02:55 +0000 (UTC) > > Ihor Antonov <ihor@antonovs.family> wrote: > > > > > So there are 2 questions: > > > - technical one: how bootstrapping issue can be solved? > > > - what does FreeBSD community think of the idea to have Rust in base? > > > > Some years back a great deal of work was done to remove perl from > > the base so adding Rust (or anything else) would be a step back. An old BSD > > goal is that base should be just enough to be self hosting and be BSD > > (removing the traditional games from the base took some discussion). > > > > > As a fellow embedded guy, +1 to what Steve says. Even things in the "Base" > should probably have package db entries so they can be removed. That is a "longer term goal", but development is heading into the direction of making the base OS more modular, and finally abandoning freebsd-update in favor of "pkg for base". It would enable FreeBSD to become even more suitable for "specialized applications" where you intendedly want a minimal or tailored footprint of the OS. > Target > systems don't necessarily need a compiler or a full tool chain. Then we > can converge on a consensus set of basic tools that most people will need, > with the opportunity to remove them – rather than creating a > mini/micro/nano-FreeBSD I just hope it doesn't bring us the "joy" known from Linux land where a failed update (in this context: of application software, here: installed ports / packages) will render the whole system unusable beyong recovery... "even the kernel is a package". ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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