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Date:      Fri, 29 Nov 1996 11:00:45 -0700 (MST)
From:      Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org>
To:        wwong@wiley.csusb.edu (William Wong)
Cc:        wes@xmission.com, terry@lambert.org, chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Laws of Physics (was Re: SCSI A/V drives)
Message-ID:  <199611291800.LAA02434@phaeton.artisoft.com>
In-Reply-To: <199611290620.WAA08983@wiley.csusb.edu> from "William Wong" at Nov 28, 96 10:20:49 pm

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> I agree with you 100 percent except for the part of my confusing those
> "states".  I don't remember stating that having a degree in something related
> to "actually knowing something".  Believe me, I have experienced enough to
> know just exactly where you are coming from.  The reason I'm going for so many
> degrees is for that marketing advantage (yech!).  It's very unfortunate that
> so many companies are looking for degrees rather than of abilities.

Actually, Wes and I have a mutual friend who has degrees in psychology,
mathematics, and computer science.

A degree is less important to marketability than interviewing well.


Another mutual friend of Wes and I claims that a degree is a latter
day union card.  Since he is a PhD who has been teaching physics
(and then computer science) for decades, I tend to believe him.  He
is the person who hands out the union cards, after all.


So in order of "importance" for marketability:

1)	Ability to get an interview.
2)	Ability to sell yourself in an interview.
3)	Ability to do what you claimed you could so that you keep
	the job.

Item #3 is the reason you look at job history when hiring someone;
if they have a lot of short duration jobs, it's likely they meet
items #1 and #2, but fall down afterwards.


A degree can be useful if you go through an HR department to get
hired; one of the things HR departments do is pick some arbitrary
measure of merit, and throw all the resumes/applications not meeting
that measure into the trash.

Sometimes a degree is is used as that measure.

Sometimes, it's experience.

Sometimes, it's how well your resume is written.

Sometimes, it's spelling.

On the other hand, in my entire employment history I have only gone
in for a job through an HR department once, and that was applying to
a company that answered 800 number calls.  I ended up not working for
them because they wanted me to sign over invention rights while I was
answering their phones; kind of a silly requirement for employment
for a high school student.


					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
---
Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
or previous employers.



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