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Date:      Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:19:36 +1000
From:      "Andrew Hannam" <hannama@fan.net.au>
To:        "Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai" <asmodai@wxs.nl>, "Christopher G. Petrilli" <petrilli@amber.org>
Cc:        "FreeBSD Small" <freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: Command-line i/f
Message-ID:  <000101bdf1e4$5e0279e0$0104010a@andrewh.famzon.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <Version.32.19981006232725.01028710@pop.wxs.nl>

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> >> Not necessarily...  Quite a few mortals know how to code
> Forth.  I have
> >> enjoyed a fair amount of success over the years introducing
> Forth to new
> >> programmers.
> >
> >This is really not a valid argument.  Quite a few mortals know x86
> >assembler, but that hardly makes it attractive <wink>  I think the
> >reality is that RPN is totally foreign to most people, at least those
> >who don't keep a traditional HP calculator by their sides.
>
> Heh, depends on what it will be used for... It is small though ;)

With all this discussion on Forth, I ask myself why people are looking for
alternatives to the most common script language/command line (/bin/sh). The
obvious answer is size but yet it was not so long ago that I remember seeing
versions of sh below the 10K mark in size (albiet 16 bit versions). What
happenned ? - Job control, command line completion and all sorts of other
very nice features.
Has anyone looked back into history to find a far more minimal version of
the shell that is more suitable to PicoBSD's requirements ?
Whilst writing 32 bit code may cause larger binaries - we have the
advantages of shared libraries to help reduce it again.
Anyone know of such an implementation with appropriate source licenses?



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