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Date:      Sun, 07 Feb 1999 12:06:50 +0100 (CET)
From:      Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl>
To:        "Oben O. Candemir" <dunya@one.net.au>
Cc:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>, "Jason C. Wells" <jcwells@u.washington.edu>
Subject:   RE: Sore Support
Message-ID:  <XFMail.990207120650.asmodai@wxs.nl>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9902072131040.2767-100000@fireball.2000.com.au>

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On 07-Feb-99 Oben O. Candemir wrote:
> 
>> It's up to users amongst each other to help each other. You know it,
>> else you wouldn't be writing for the ezine just as I am.
> 
> Jeroen, I take your points... the email was half in jest though :)

Please, please, please use smiley's next time then...

> It would be an ideal world where everyone was willing to both teach
> and learn.

The people whom I meet on IRC, the lists and in Real Life(tm) are often
willing to learn.

> I understand that people in the computer industry who work with computers
> nine to five have a different perspective than I do. I'm just giving a
> different viewpoint. I don't have to 'be nice' and 'be careful of toes'
> lest I step on them like some other enthusiasts here who have dreams of
> joining 'teams' etc.

Well, given the fact that some people consider getting the Nobel award the
highest achievement, others might think so of joining something like a core
team or whatever other thing that means a lot for an invidual for his
hobbies/interest. For some it's personal gratification, for others its the
recognition, and others don't give jack about it =)

> I just use my computer for enjoyment and developing end user solutions. I
> do that well, and I am always willing to help others without attempting
> to classify them into various boxes before I deal with them. That comes
> from my medical training, where noone is refused services. Once you start
> helping on the basis of some parameter then you have strictly speaking
> discriminated. 

End user eh? Likeable testsubject for our latest newbie helping ideas is
more like it =)

> I leave it to others to decide whether they wish to discriminate...

Well an honest answer to honest statement, I discriminate, as I rather
spend my time on people willing to learn than those not willing. That way
it is more enjoyable for both the one to explain as the one trying to grasp
it.

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