Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:01:41 -0700 From: Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org> To: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> Cc: Eitan Adler <lists@eitanadler.com>, arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Removing CVS from HEAD Message-ID: <504E3915.6010004@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <66F37598-323F-48E4-B013-093E6893D05F@bsdimp.com> References: <CAF6rxgnZGjzm230sZXVXxmE7wPowF_BZqbwRjdvz8oV-03gS=A@mail.gmail.com> <20120908234659.GA10489@server.rulingia.com> <CAF6rxg=5_jpKVOdnggT1FtJcL6C0odvfAG8CuWCtVQmir-5L4g@mail.gmail.com> <42D7F0F3-46EC-484A-8665-626AD5D0404E@bsdimp.com> <504D2BE4.6030007@FreeBSD.org> <59550073-A4DE-4152-B406-DFC47AF991DC@bsdimp.com> <504D6EE8.5010604@FreeBSD.org> <7470815C-E215-4A57-90AB-773C2B74E2DA@bsdimp.com> <504E30A9.6030905@FreeBSD.org> <66F37598-323F-48E4-B013-093E6893D05F@bsdimp.com>
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On 9/10/2012 11:49 AM, Warner Losh wrote: > > On Sep 10, 2012, at 1:25 PM, Doug Barton wrote: > >> On 9/10/2012 8:28 AM, Warner Losh wrote: >>> If all goes according to plan, this will be in a few months. If it doesn't, then we have a fallback... >> >> We already have a fallback, install it from the port. Can you please >> address why you believe that solution is not adequate? > > Because the documentation that we have doesn't say install the port. It still says use CVS. Once that's updated and translated, that will be one of the last (last?) thing we need to have things fully cut over and have cvs really be unused and can then proceed to remove it. We're still ripping out places in the docs where we refer to CVS for src related stuff, never mind docs and ports. http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/240316 Should we go back to using CVS as the repo until that work is finished? And as someone else pointed out the average user doesn't use CVS directly anyway. They use c[v]sup to check out the source, which doesn't use anything from the in-base CVS. That said, I agree that it's unfortunate that our documentation is so far behind the curve here, and wish that people would take me more seriously when I talk about needing a project plan for these kinds of major infrastructure changes. But just like the mirror creation process, the documentation changes are already underway. The sooner we remove CVS from the base the sooner we can find other areas that need to be fixed up, in anticipation of having it polished for 10.0-RELEASE. Doug -- I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And I will not let what I cannot do interfere with what I can do. -- Edward Everett Hale, (1822 - 1909)
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