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Date:      Thu, 24 Oct 2019 19:52:59 +0300
From:      Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <freebsd-arch@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Heads up: Bumping Minimum build version to 11.
Message-ID:  <20191024165259.GY73312@kib.kiev.ua>
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On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 10:47:01AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> I'm in the process of bumping the minimum version of FreeBSD needed to
> build from 10.3 to 11.x (still working on the x bit). There's other issues
> with 11, but those are being addressed separately.
> 
> 10.x can't built current because it's C++ compiler is too old. There's no
> easy way to fix this because it can't build llvm w/o a lot of hacks, which
> aren't productive. Upstream has moved away from using constructs that are
> supported by clang 3.4.1 / g++ 2.4.1, and our policy is to not try when
> that's happened as we will diverge from upstream for a feature that gives
> very little benefit to our users.
> 
> To that end, I plan on bumping the minimum version needed to build -current
> to 11.0 (assuming that the tests are successful). I also plan on removing /
> retiring all the workarounds for pre 11 build systems, as is our normal
> custom. While technically the project minimum is only the tip of -stable,
> we can relax this through the efforts of those wishing it to work.
> Historically we've done several major revisions back due to various needs
> of our users, though with clang that's becoming more difficult (hence the
> need to bump the minimum up to 11).
> 
> This is just a heads up that we're changing things to reflect the new
> realities on the ground so others don't hit build errors later in the build
> process.

HEAD on stable/11 is not buildable anyway, due to the lack of the
private lib infrastructure.

I believe we only supported buiild of HEAD on latest stable branch, and
there you needed a latest release or post-release stable.



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