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Date:      Thu, 24 Apr 2003 16:32:27 +0100 (BST)
From:      "Duncan Young" <duncan.young@pobox.com>
To:        "Tillman" <tillman@seekingfire.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Vinum in FreeBSD 4.x branch
Message-ID:  <49147.192.107.26.131.1051198347.squirrel@www.duncanyoung.com>
In-Reply-To: <20030424075652.A20669@seekingfire.com>
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> On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 09:30:14AM +0100, Duncan Young wrote:
>> Remember this is supposed to be in a corporate environment where
>> "failure is
>> not an option".  Getting vinum to set up root disks is "fiddly" and
>> whomever
>> will support the box tomorrow, may not be as compentent as whomever sets
>> it
>> up today.  When things go wrong, the simplest setup is best.
>
> I have a different viewpoint: if this is supposed to be in a corporate
> environment, don't set up up the less competent folks for failure by
> having them inherit a system that they're not capable of supporting.
> This is a staffing issue, not a technical issue.

I'm not sure that your viewpoint is different to mine.  I'm just making
allowances for the failures of management/staffing. One should look at the
whole problem, not just the short term techincal aspects.  I feel long
term maintenance should be considered.  Assuming that the whole site isn't
BSD, then vinum is a "special case" which no-one except FreeBSD people
will have had experienc with (and even then, not that many).  So in
considering its use I feel that this should be taken into acount.

Duncan



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