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Date:      Sun, 5 May 2002 16:31:36 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Patrick Thomas <root@utility.clubscholarship.com>
To:        <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   what causes a userland to stop, but allows kernel to continue ?
Message-ID:  <20020505162455.K86733-100000@utility.clubscholarship.com>

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So, based on a previous thread, it looks like I have a server whose
userland halted, essentially, but the kernel continued running.

As evidenced by:

- you can still ping the server just fine
- you can still connect to running services just fine - if you ssh to it,
`ssh -v` (verbose) claims a connection is established, but the server
doesn't respond in any way over that connection.  Further, you can telnet
to POP or IMAP or HTTP ports, and get a connection, but you can't get any
response.
- cron does NOT run while the server is in this state - no jobs run
- no response from the console - caps lock does NOT toggle the LED

So, as was suggested in the previous thread, it looks like my kernel is
still running, but the userland has halted.  There are no log entries that
give any clue as to why this happened last week.


1. from a theoretical standpoint, how would this happen ?
2. Is there any way to watchdog for it and escape from it before the
userland completely crashes ?
3. any previous/old problems that would cause this behavior ?


It is a FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE system, and it is SMP - fairly heavily loaded
(averages 60% CPU idle in `top` output).

thanks,

PT



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