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Date:      Thu, 4 Mar 1999 07:17:25 -0500
From:      Rob <drifter@stratos.net>
To:        cjclark@home.com
Cc:        mph@astro.caltech.edu, bjc23@hermes.cam.ac.uk, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: The FreeBSD Dictionary
Message-ID:  <19990304071725.B29308@net>
In-Reply-To: <199903031635.LAA05177@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com>; from Crist J. Clark on Wed, Mar 03, 1999 at 11:35:43AM -0500
References:  <19990303045313.B1500@net> <199903031635.LAA05177@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com>

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On Wed, Mar 03, 1999 at 11:35:43AM -0500, Crist J. Clark wrote:
> Rob wrote,
> >      This might sound like a stupid question, but how is it possible
> > to "copyright" a dictionary?  I(c) mean(c), they(c) don't(c) own(c)
> > the(c) words(c), do they?
> >      At the very least, it would seem that Webster's would be hard-
> > pressed to prove that somebody "stole" their word list.
> 
> So I could make photocopies Websters and go sell them on the corner,
> and you would see no problem with that? Greg Lehey's book on FreeBSD
> must not be copyrighted because he does not own FreeBSD. Likewise and
> book on history, science, etc., basically any work on non-fiction must
> not be copyrighted.

     That's not what I said.

> 
> Compilation of those words represents many man-years of
> labor. Websters or any other entity has the right to protect that hard
> work from plagiarism.

     Fine, point taken -- though I kind of viewed the copyright law as
being more geared towards the final result (in this case a, an electronic
file full of a list of words and no definitions) and its uniqueness 
(could you copy right a book solely with nursury rhymes with no
additional essays or editorials?).
     If people used words everyday, I wondered, how could you copyright
that, no matter how much effort you spent typesetting it?

> As for the last point, taking the moral highground, I see, "I know it
> is wrong, but I cannot be caught, so it is OK." But wait, there is the
> ol' urban legend that dictionaries put in bogus entries just to be
> able to catch copyright infringments.

     I was not saying that it was "OK" to distribute copyrighted
material.  I just said the general idea of copyrighting a book
whose main material is a list of words was kind of funny.  I wasn't
trying to make a major point, which is why I cc'd this to chat...

     -Rob


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