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Date:      Tue, 29 Jul 2014 00:48:40 -0800
From:      Peter Giessel <pgiessel@mac.com>
To:        krad <kraduk@gmail.com>
Cc:        "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: deciding UFS vs ZFS
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On 2014, Jul 29, at 0:23, krad <kraduk@gmail.com> wrote:

> you are correct, however if you can afford to put big drives like that =
one
> a system you can afford to match up a far more modern cpu with the =
drives
> with a decent amount of ram. Something like the hp microserver is =
little
> more than =A3100 and is more than capable of handling zfs. 5-6 year =
old 2nd
> had kit is as well and it probably cheaper. Also your going to have to =
get
> pretty creative to get a modern sata/sas drive to work in an =
((e)*isa|mca)
> based board, which will nullify any cost saving of using decades old
> hardware.


That is simply not true.

At our government surplus store, I can get Pentium 4 computers with 2 GB =
of RAM for $25.  They have SATA ports on the motherboard, so (2) 3TB =
SATA Seagate ST3000DM001 are $99.99 each on Amazon right now with free =
shipping.  For under $250, I can put together redundant server with 3TB =
RAID 1 storage.

Assuming you mean ProLiant 712317-001 Ultra Micro Tower Server, those =
cost around $400 with 2GB of RAM.  1GB/TB of RAM to storage, it will =
need more RAM according to:
"A general rule of thumb is 1GB of RAM for every 1TB of storage.=94
https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/filesystems-zfs.html=



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