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Date:      Tue, 22 Jun 1999 21:40:20 +0200
From:      Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl>
To:        Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>
Cc:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>, hm@hcs.de, dfr@nlsystems.com, peter@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD Hackers <hackers@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: All this and documentation too? (was: cvs commit: src/sys/isa sio.c)
Message-ID:  <19990622214019.B15249@daemon.ninth-circle.org>
In-Reply-To: <199906220842.BAA01553@dingo.cdrom.com>; from Mike Smith on Tue, Jun 22, 1999 at 01:42:05AM -0700
References:  <19990622180252.J76907@freebie.lemis.com> <199906220842.BAA01553@dingo.cdrom.com>

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* Mike Smith (mike@smith.net.au) [990622 17:38]:
> > And they might, too.  phk has frequently expressed a desire to either
> > write documentation on existing systems, or at least help others do
> > so.
> 
> No offence meant, but we can see how much of this has actually 
> materialised.

Hence I started the PDP =P

Still going strong...

> > > Documentation is written after the fact, by someone else.
> > 
> > That's the worst kind of documentation.  In fact, most UNIX
> > documentation is written by the authors.  After the fact, admittedly.
> 
> In fact, most Unix documentation is never written, being my original 
> point.

Which sucks given all the crap the same people tend to spew then about 
Microsoft being very closed about their internals.

No documentation is worse than just a sparse manpage. The latter at least
makes it more understanding for all without doing too much UTSL.
And given the aspirations the Project has with regard to commercial support
I find the silent encouragement of just hack and not document disturbing
to say the very least.

> As always, complaining about the _lack_ of something is the wrong 
> approach for this project.  Step up and fill the gap, or expose 
> yourself to criticism for failing to do so.  There has to be a way to 
> make a verb from Brett Glass' name, but I'm sure you get the point.

And I did/am doing that with the PDP, which at it current rate of support
(that is just me ;) whill be finished somewhere when FreeBSD 6.5 will be
released or so, but I am not complaining about that =)

I am not fingerpointing here, not am I willing to. I just want to ask all
developers to try and document at least the basic ideas somewhere in a 
manpage in order to make it easier for others (like me) who want to get
the documentation on the road.

Thanks,

-- 
Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven                asmodai(at)wxs.nl
        The *BSD Programmer's Documentation Project 
Network/Security Specialist      <http://home.wxs.nl/~asmodai>;
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