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Date:      Wed, 21 May 1997 20:22:21 -0700 (PDT)
From:      "Duane H. Hesser" <alex@androcles.com>
To:        Cat Okita <cat@uunet.ca>
Cc:        jmb@hub.freebsd.org, current@hub.freebsd.org, "Jonathan M. Bresler" <jmb@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: usregsite.com
Message-ID:  <XFMail.970521204939.alex@androcles.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970521110804.4192P-100000@troll.uunet.ca>

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On 21-May-97 Cat Okita wrote:
>On Wed, 21 May 1997, Duane H. Hesser wrote:
>> Not in my opeinion...in fact, you CAN'T be over-zealous in this regard.
>> Nice to know that someone's keeping watch.  Thanks.
>
>I strongly disagree with you. As a large NSP, having to constantly call
>people and say "Hi, you were over-zealous, stop blocking our domain" is
> ...[snip]
>
>I hope that you can see my point here...
>
>OTOH, I don't advocate spammers, just not throwing the baby out with the
>bathwater...
>
>Cat Okita
>Systems Administrator, UUNET Canada
>

I certainly DO see your point, and I thank you for making it.

I have received several spam messages in the past few weeks through the freebsd
mailing lists, and the intent of my message was to notify the fellow that at least
ONE user of the list appreciates that someone is watching.  I don't think his
action was in the least out of line, under the circumstances.  I (continue to)
hope that my message will encourage him not to slack off attention.  The vermin
who prey on the net certainly won't.

I don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater...but it may be, considering
the extraordinary aggressivness of the [insert pejorative here] that the best we
can do is strap her securely in the basinet.

I can easily sympathize with your position; in the past I've held numerous admin
positions in Unix environments, and I can imagine the problems you must face.
Nonetheless, I can point out that at least service providers are being PAID for
your trouble; the rest of us must simply waste the lion's share of our available
time trying to deal with the problem when we would like to be using our systems
for things that interest us.  It does not escape my attention, either, that my
simple little home system could be forged at some jerk's whim, and I would be in
the same position that you decribed.  Could happen...and I would not be amused.

I have a  good deal more to say on the subject (because it's part of a much larger
problem that grieves me), but I'll spare you.

In any case, anyone who would block a "uunet" site is a nit...

--------------- 

Duane H. Hesser
dhh@androcles.com



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